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bespoke radio for the masses headline

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edition july 8th

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1947 the army air forces has announced

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that a flying disk has been found and

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is now in the possession of the army if

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the game is rigged

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change the game game changer

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i occasionally think how quickly our

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differences worldwide

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would vanish if we were facing an alien

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threat

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this is fade to black with your host

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jimmy church

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on the game changer radio network and

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kgra

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i need your help to get to the year 1985

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you're listening to fate to flag with

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good evening fade to black

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bespoke radio

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masses yeah

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how you doing how you doing today is

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2020

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314 days into the new year

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only 52 days left

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we are live from a bunker somewhere in

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the middle of beautiful downtown burbank

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california

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chilly outside yeah

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it's about it's about

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50 degrees

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sure did that's right

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well i would like to welcome everybody

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listening all around the world

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hither and tither to and fro

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back and forth up and down east and west

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north and south far

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and near this is fade to block for kjcr

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the game changer network and kg r

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a the planets i'm yours jimmy church

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what is cracking everybody how you doing

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you have a good weekend yeah

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i'm sure he did i'm sure you did

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and what a week we have got coming up on

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fade to block

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tonight right here tonight

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very special guest chad kalec

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i cannot wait for this tonight uh he's

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here to announce the premiere of his new

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film it's called phantom rider

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i have seen it it is great it premieres

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tomorrow all right so we'll be talking

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about all of that tonight and we'll talk

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the gray

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his uh this is part three by the way of

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those two films so uh we'll be

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you know talking about the first two and

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this new one it's

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it's pretty good and it's it's great i

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and that's tonight tomorrow night

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steve laplane is here and steve has got

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a new book out

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uh about rendleshim and this is the

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we'll be talking about all of this

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tomorrow night with steve that there was

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the famous incident and and those uh two

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um that involved all of the players that

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familiar with but tomorrow night it's

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steve le plume

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and get ready for this all right so

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that's tomorrow night

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and uh and then wednesday night

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we we got a call uh from

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uh one of the fader knots on thursday

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night on fader night that said hey

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jimmy need you to get scott walter on

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talk about albert pike i said hey you

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know what

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hey i can do that

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i can do that so picked up the phone

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called scott said albert pike he said

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and gave me the rundown and it's uh

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gonna be an incredible show so that is

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see that's what the word bespoke uh

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about fade to black right there okay so

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wednesday night scott walter and the

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secret life of

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albert pike get ready for that ah oh

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thursday is another fader night with

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there you go just a normal week of

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normal stuff i feed the black so excited

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oh man chad caleb's gonna be with us at

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all night long how exciting is that

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yeah there you go all right oh

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man let's get to the breaking news

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asteroid report after avoiding

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2018 vp1

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measuring 46 meters is asteroid 2020

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the 72 meter 2020 ul3 it's going to

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asteroid 2020 vc measuring 34 meters in

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is set to fly by earth at a distance of

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that's 2018

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vs4 it's 23 meters in diameter

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television production is slowly

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my two current favorite series are back

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to work

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star trek discovery right is it back in

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a week ago in toronto and i just got

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word that the orville

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seth macfarlane's homage to star trek

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is ramping up to restart production on

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its third season next

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month in december as of now there was no

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target date for the oroville season

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three's debut on hulu

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but they hope to start the season before

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the end of 2021

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here's the other news season three will

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consist of 11 episodes

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each of which will have a longer run

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time than episodes from the first two

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season

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which aired on fox let's get the show

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cracking happy birthday to

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today the hulk

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lou ferrigno today

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69 years old and original

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iron maiden guitars dennis stratton

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today is 66. he played on the first

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record

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did the first tour i think they opened

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for kiss

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i could be wrong i'm making that up no

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i'm not

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i might be our dead guy's birthday today

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is carl sagan 1934 to 1996 died at the

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age of 62.

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carl was of course an american

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astronomer planetary scientist

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cosmologist

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astrophysicist astrobiologist author

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poet

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and science communicator his best known

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scientific contribution

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is research on extraterrestrial life

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including

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experimental demonstrations of the

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production of amino acids from basic

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chemicals

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by radiation that's right carl also

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narrated and co-wrote the award-winning

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television series cosmos

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a personal voyage the most widely

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watched

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series in the history of american public

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television

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cosmos has been seen at by at least

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500 million people across

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60 different countries well and of

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course he also wrote

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the science fiction novel contact the

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basis for the 1997 film of the same name

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and his papers containing 595

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000 items are archived at the library of

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congress

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now after receiving three bone marrow

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transplants from his sister

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sagan died from pneumonia at the age of

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62 at the fred hutchinson

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cancer research center in seattle

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washington on december 20th

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1996 at the age of 62.

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happy birthday carl sagan

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on this day in history 1989

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east german officials opened the berlin

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wall allowing travel from east to west

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berlin

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the following day celebrating germans

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began to tear that wall down

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that's right man you know when whatever

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you think that

361
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you know history or you know the current

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status of everything is just

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in stone and will never change there's

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an example right there

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things do change vader fact

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listen to this in 1856

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businessman and aeronautics enthusiast

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matthias perez took off in a hot air

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balloon

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at sunset in cuba there are pictures

371
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documenting this event and he was never

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seen

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sailed off to the sunset literally

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oh man let me hit this river moon coffee

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rivermooncoffee.com tonight very special

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guest chad kalec

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he is back he is here to announce the

378
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premiere of his new film it is called

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phantom rider

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premieres tomorrow we'll talk about all

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of that where you can go and see it

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that is tomorrow i have seen the entire

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film we'll be talking about that tonight

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and of course all of his films but this

385
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is part three

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of sir no face and uh

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uh no face the gray okay two face

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so this is part three tonight we'll be

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talking about all of that

390
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and then tomorrow night steve lapoom is

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here for

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the first time and we are talking about

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his new book

394
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there was a second rendelshim incident

395
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on january 28 1981

396
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at east gate you may not have heard

397
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about it

398
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the book is out now we will be talking

399
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about all of that tomorrow night

400
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and then wednesday night scott walter

401
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scott walters going to be back here

402
00:19:12,950 --> 00:19:12,080
talking about the secret life of albert

403
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pike

404
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thursday night is another fader night

405
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with open lines

406
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all night long all right

407
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river moon coffee river mooncoffee.com

408
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what a weekend uh

409
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what a crazy mood change

410
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that the entire planet went through

411
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yep yep happened over the weekend

412
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and uh looking at and it was

413
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pretty bizarre to see everything to

414
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start to unfold in

415
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you know different cities and countries

416
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around the world and

417
00:20:01,909 --> 00:19:59,919
what appeared to be just jubilation and

418
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and harmony and happiness yeah that was

419
00:20:06,870 --> 00:20:04,840
pretty cool i dug it

420
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but

421
00:20:13,909 --> 00:20:10,000
i've got to say this i

422
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posted over on facebook

423
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uh that you know apparently and this you

424
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know i

425
00:20:25,430 --> 00:20:21,600
the weekend and i've got

426
00:20:27,990 --> 00:20:25,440
stuff to do oh man i've got

427
00:20:29,590 --> 00:20:28,000
new security systems to install over at

428
00:20:31,029 --> 00:20:29,600
the house got to do that

429
00:20:33,190 --> 00:20:31,039
i got to make sure that those are all

430
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working and installed

431
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and uh yard work

432
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you know the garage little carpet

433
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cleaning

434
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you know things you know i was busy and

435
00:20:50,950 --> 00:20:49,440
so i jump on facebook

436
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and i noticed and i'm just scrolling

437
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through which i really

438
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i don't do much of especially over the

439
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last

440
00:21:02,950 --> 00:21:01,679
year right i just i just don't like

441
00:21:05,110 --> 00:21:02,960
seeing the fighting and

442
00:21:06,310 --> 00:21:05,120
things you know personal friends of mine

443
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not friends that i met

444
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and that are friends with in the last

445
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five years or 10 years i'm talking about

446
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friends and family that go back three

447
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four five decades

448
00:21:25,190 --> 00:21:21,840
fighting and posting

449
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and it just met i just i just didn't dig

450
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it

451
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so i stopped scrolling through the news

452
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feeds i stopped bam probably six months

453
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ago

454
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just won't do it i do my little post

455
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i'm out right little post

456
00:21:43,190 --> 00:21:41,840
i'm out i'm just out i i i can't get

457
00:21:47,590 --> 00:21:43,200
dragged into the mess

458
00:21:51,190 --> 00:21:50,630
and you know i jump i jump on facebook

459
00:21:52,549 --> 00:21:51,200
and i know

460
00:21:54,470 --> 00:21:52,559
you know like the first thing in the

461
00:21:56,789 --> 00:21:54,480
feed usually is

462
00:21:59,510 --> 00:21:56,799
some crazy stuff you know somebody

463
00:22:03,830 --> 00:21:59,520
fighting somebody posting somebody angry

464
00:22:07,029 --> 00:22:03,840
and the first thing i see is

465
00:22:08,310 --> 00:22:07,039
somebody's dog whatever like wow that's

466
00:22:11,909 --> 00:22:08,320
kind of weird

467
00:22:12,630 --> 00:22:11,919
so i started scrolling through facebook

468
00:22:17,669 --> 00:22:12,640
and i'm

469
00:22:20,950 --> 00:22:17,679
seeing a change

470
00:22:22,870 --> 00:22:20,960
i'm looking back i mean what was gone

471
00:22:24,789 --> 00:22:22,880
were the negative conspiracy theories

472
00:22:27,270 --> 00:22:24,799
the fights in the division virtually

473
00:22:31,750 --> 00:22:27,280
overnight by the way

474
00:22:34,789 --> 00:22:31,760
and back what i see in my feed

475
00:22:38,390 --> 00:22:34,799
are posts about life and pets and food

476
00:22:43,590 --> 00:22:38,400
and family what's going on here

477
00:22:49,990 --> 00:22:47,350
now let me let me say this really quick

478
00:22:51,350 --> 00:22:50,000
it could be it could be one of two

479
00:22:53,669 --> 00:22:51,360
things it could be

480
00:22:55,750 --> 00:22:53,679
that everything is genuine right that

481
00:22:56,710 --> 00:22:55,760
these are real posts about life and pets

482
00:22:58,630 --> 00:22:56,720
and food and

483
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what everybody's eating and their kids

484
00:23:02,789 --> 00:23:00,720
and family and birthdays and

485
00:23:04,950 --> 00:23:02,799
and all of that that it could be just

486
00:23:08,470 --> 00:23:04,960
that or

487
00:23:10,310 --> 00:23:08,480
right or it could be the facebook

488
00:23:13,350 --> 00:23:10,320
algorithms just

489
00:23:15,029 --> 00:23:13,360
weeding everything out weeding

490
00:23:19,830 --> 00:23:15,039
everything out and replacing

491
00:23:22,950 --> 00:23:19,840
and just maybe that's what was happening

492
00:23:26,950 --> 00:23:22,960
before november 3rd

493
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right should everybody's feeds have been

494
00:23:31,110 --> 00:23:27,440
influenced

495
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i'm just saying or

496
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it is genuine maybe now everybody's done

497
00:23:39,190 --> 00:23:38,320
it's it's the the fighting the thing you

498
00:23:42,230 --> 00:23:39,200
know it's just like

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00:23:45,669 --> 00:23:42,240
relief and it is

500
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life pets food family

501
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school jobs the weather

502
00:24:03,269 --> 00:23:59,669
right okay but

503
00:24:06,310 --> 00:24:03,279
i was never comfortable

504
00:24:07,190 --> 00:24:06,320
in saying that conspiracy is the new

505
00:24:10,710 --> 00:24:07,200
normal

506
00:24:13,750 --> 00:24:10,720
i said it and i said it years ago

507
00:24:16,710 --> 00:24:13,760
this wasn't anything new

508
00:24:17,110 --> 00:24:16,720
uh what i just the thought of that you

509
00:24:19,510 --> 00:24:17,120
know

510
00:24:21,990 --> 00:24:19,520
conspiracy is the new normal that that

511
00:24:25,110 --> 00:24:22,000
scares the crap out of me

512
00:24:28,549 --> 00:24:25,120
it does now

513
00:24:30,789 --> 00:24:28,559
i don't know about you

514
00:24:32,549 --> 00:24:30,799
but i kind of like my conspiracies left

515
00:24:35,990 --> 00:24:32,559
to us

516
00:24:37,830 --> 00:24:36,000
in our little circle i mean you have to

517
00:24:40,630 --> 00:24:37,840
leave conspiracy theory to the

518
00:24:46,630 --> 00:24:43,590
we know how to deal with them the rest

519
00:24:49,350 --> 00:24:46,640
of the world did not

520
00:24:50,470 --> 00:24:49,360
you can't be a newbie you can't be fresh

521
00:24:54,070 --> 00:24:50,480
you can't be a fresh

522
00:24:56,549 --> 00:24:54,080
initiate to the world of conspiracy

523
00:24:58,549 --> 00:24:56,559
like what is going down right now it

524
00:25:00,870 --> 00:24:58,559
messes with people

525
00:25:03,909 --> 00:25:00,880
you can't just leave the conspiracies to

526
00:25:06,950 --> 00:25:03,919
us we'll we'll keep you posted

527
00:25:09,350 --> 00:25:06,960
because the conspiracy

528
00:25:11,350 --> 00:25:09,360
community let me let me let me break it

529
00:25:15,029 --> 00:25:11,360
down like this

530
00:25:18,310 --> 00:25:15,039
the conspiracy community is a bunch of

531
00:25:20,950 --> 00:25:18,320
different groups all right and you can

532
00:25:22,390 --> 00:25:20,960
hang out at a conference or whatever a

533
00:25:23,990 --> 00:25:22,400
little get together and you can kind of

534
00:25:26,390 --> 00:25:24,000
look around and say you know

535
00:25:27,669 --> 00:25:26,400
there is so and so you know they're kind

536
00:25:29,750 --> 00:25:27,679
of into that you know

537
00:25:31,029 --> 00:25:29,760
they're into that's you know that's what

538
00:25:32,549 --> 00:25:31,039
they're doing and then

539
00:25:34,390 --> 00:25:32,559
whatever you know blah blah blah and

540
00:25:35,269 --> 00:25:34,400
then look over here and oh there's so

541
00:25:39,269 --> 00:25:35,279
and so

542
00:25:43,029 --> 00:25:39,279
he she believes that blah blah blah

543
00:25:46,310 --> 00:25:43,039
right but we

544
00:25:49,990 --> 00:25:46,320
in this community accept

545
00:25:52,230 --> 00:25:50,000
everyone's opinions and beliefs

546
00:25:54,549 --> 00:25:52,240
we have always had an open door policy

547
00:25:58,070 --> 00:25:54,559
around here

548
00:26:00,789 --> 00:25:58,080
well about almost anything

549
00:26:02,630 --> 00:26:00,799
but we don't fight we don't end

550
00:26:05,350 --> 00:26:02,640
friendships

551
00:26:07,029 --> 00:26:05,360
and we certainly don't lose our minds

552
00:26:13,110 --> 00:26:07,039
and divide

553
00:26:20,390 --> 00:26:17,350
which is why i'm so happy

554
00:26:23,990 --> 00:26:20,400
about getting the drama of

555
00:26:26,549 --> 00:26:24,000
everything behind us and getting back to

556
00:26:29,830 --> 00:26:26,559
what fade to black is all about

557
00:26:32,950 --> 00:26:29,840
conspiracy ufos time travel lost history

558
00:26:35,669 --> 00:26:32,960
paranormal supernatural and

559
00:26:38,470 --> 00:26:35,679
and everything else that makes this show

560
00:26:42,870 --> 00:26:38,480
so much fun each and

561
00:26:44,710 --> 00:26:42,880
every night that's what unites all of us

562
00:26:46,390 --> 00:26:44,720
and i say it all the time this is like

563
00:26:49,430 --> 00:26:46,400
the barber shop man

564
00:26:53,029 --> 00:26:49,440
you know to to quote the barber shop and

565
00:26:55,830 --> 00:26:53,039
and you know ice cubes movie that

566
00:26:56,230 --> 00:26:55,840
we can say anything inside of here all

567
00:26:59,510 --> 00:26:56,240
right

568
00:27:02,549 --> 00:26:59,520
you can go anywhere you want to go

569
00:27:05,669 --> 00:27:02,559
inside of here we will listen

570
00:27:06,149 --> 00:27:05,679
we may not buy into it but you're not

571
00:27:10,149 --> 00:27:06,159
going

572
00:27:11,990 --> 00:27:10,159
to be hated normally there's a few

573
00:27:13,909 --> 00:27:12,000
but that's not going to happen you're

574
00:27:17,029 --> 00:27:13,919
not going to lose friendships

575
00:27:19,269 --> 00:27:17,039
you can hang out and have a conversation

576
00:27:20,310 --> 00:27:19,279
that's it and that's what makes this

577
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show

578
00:27:28,470 --> 00:27:24,880
so great watching the disintegration

579
00:27:31,990 --> 00:27:28,480
of the world on facebook and twitter

580
00:27:35,350 --> 00:27:32,000
and other social media platforms

581
00:27:38,870 --> 00:27:35,360
was sad for me because that isn't

582
00:27:42,870 --> 00:27:38,880
how this community operates

583
00:27:46,230 --> 00:27:42,880
to be sure if you look at

584
00:27:49,750 --> 00:27:46,240
the fader knots in the facebook

585
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or twitter or even youtube any feed

586
00:27:55,110 --> 00:27:52,799
any conversation over on on spreaker the

587
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chat rooms kgra

588
00:27:58,149 --> 00:27:57,360
everybody in there is 50 50 if you're

589
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gonna

590
00:28:03,430 --> 00:28:00,799
get into the political realm but nobody

591
00:28:07,190 --> 00:28:03,440
honestly gives a crap

592
00:28:10,149 --> 00:28:07,200
they know they know

593
00:28:11,990 --> 00:28:10,159
but that's not why they're here right

594
00:28:13,669 --> 00:28:12,000
and it's not about your religion or your

595
00:28:16,310 --> 00:28:13,679
background or your beliefs or

596
00:28:17,990 --> 00:28:16,320
personally who you are about we are here

597
00:28:19,669 --> 00:28:18,000
to try to figure out what the heck is

598
00:28:22,630 --> 00:28:19,679
going on

599
00:28:24,070 --> 00:28:22,640
and i cannot be any more clear there may

600
00:28:25,110 --> 00:28:24,080
be some out there that are trying to

601
00:28:28,630 --> 00:28:25,120
influence

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00:28:31,750 --> 00:28:28,640
in in in ufo uh in ufology

603
00:28:33,350 --> 00:28:31,760
and conspiracy theory that's fine it's

604
00:28:34,310 --> 00:28:33,360
never going to change it's always been

605
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there

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00:28:41,830 --> 00:28:37,600
but i have seen what i

607
00:28:44,070 --> 00:28:41,840
have seen and that's what drives me here

608
00:28:45,830 --> 00:28:44,080
and and going back over the years the

609
00:28:49,350 --> 00:28:45,840
craziness in my life

610
00:28:52,630 --> 00:28:49,360
right that that's well established

611
00:28:55,350 --> 00:28:52,640
but and the things that that made

612
00:28:56,149 --> 00:28:55,360
me the person who i am on the radio

613
00:28:59,990 --> 00:28:56,159
today the pers

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00:29:03,110 --> 00:29:00,000
the personality but then we go to that

615
00:29:05,190 --> 00:29:03,120
frigging beer can that

616
00:29:06,950 --> 00:29:05,200
freaking beer can where i've got 20 30

617
00:29:08,310 --> 00:29:06,960
40 friends of mine around me and we all

618
00:29:10,070 --> 00:29:08,320
see this thing together

619
00:29:11,590 --> 00:29:10,080
that's in the middle of the day and it's

620
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right there in front of us and then just

621
00:29:19,669 --> 00:29:13,279
disappears in the clear blue

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00:29:24,710 --> 00:29:22,870
the divide the divisiveness and the

623
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things that have happened

624
00:29:31,510 --> 00:29:28,000
will happen again 50

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000 years from now there will be the

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same

627
00:29:37,830 --> 00:29:36,080
conspiracy driven political system

628
00:29:39,190 --> 00:29:37,840
that ain't going to change it's been

629
00:29:42,710 --> 00:29:39,200
that way going back

630
00:29:45,269 --> 00:29:42,720
5 000 years and you think about

631
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every single situation whether it's in

632
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the united kingdom

633
00:29:52,230 --> 00:29:49,919
germany north africa think about what

634
00:29:56,070 --> 00:29:52,240
went down between the mayans and think

635
00:29:59,669 --> 00:29:56,080
and then the aztecs oh man the incas

636
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the the craziness right think about

637
00:30:04,070 --> 00:30:02,159
all of the drama that has gone down in

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china for 5 000 years

639
00:30:09,830 --> 00:30:07,679
or japan pick a country

640
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it's always been there and it's gonna

641
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continue

642
00:30:15,430 --> 00:30:13,120
we're not gonna wake up one day like

643
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this weekend and see harmony all around

644
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the world and changes in play

645
00:30:23,669 --> 00:30:21,120
no no it's not

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and that's what makes fade to black

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we put all of that aside and we are here

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on a mission

650
00:30:31,590 --> 00:30:30,720
i'm your host jimmy church that will

651
00:30:33,990 --> 00:30:31,600
never change

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this is fade to black on the game

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changer network and kgra

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00:30:40,950 --> 00:30:38,880
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it is premiering tomorrow called phantom

657
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rider

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all right welcome back fade to block i'm

744
00:35:11,589 --> 00:35:09,200
your host jimmy church

745
00:35:12,470 --> 00:35:11,599
what a great week we have here on fade

746
00:35:15,349 --> 00:35:12,480
to black getting

747
00:35:15,990 --> 00:35:15,359
back to what is real tonight chad kalec

748
00:35:18,150 --> 00:35:16,000
is here we're talking

749
00:35:19,190 --> 00:35:18,160
about his new film it's uh releasing

750
00:35:22,470 --> 00:35:19,200
tomorrow premiering

751
00:35:23,510 --> 00:35:22,480
phantom rider and then tomorrow night

752
00:35:26,310 --> 00:35:23,520
steve lapoom

753
00:35:26,790 --> 00:35:26,320
is going to be here and we're talking

754
00:35:29,349 --> 00:35:26,800
about

755
00:35:32,150 --> 00:35:29,359
the second rendel shin incident that

756
00:35:35,190 --> 00:35:32,160
happened on january 28 1981

757
00:35:37,670 --> 00:35:35,200
almost exactly a month after the now

758
00:35:39,510 --> 00:35:37,680
famous rendelshin bent waters incident

759
00:35:41,349 --> 00:35:39,520
so that's going down tomorrow night

760
00:35:42,630 --> 00:35:41,359
wednesday night scott walters here we're

761
00:35:44,390 --> 00:35:42,640
going to be talking about the secret

762
00:35:45,910 --> 00:35:44,400
life of albert pike

763
00:35:47,750 --> 00:35:45,920
thursday night's another fader night

764
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with open lines all night long but

765
00:35:52,630 --> 00:35:48,640
tonight

766
00:35:55,670 --> 00:35:52,640
it is guest chad kalec researcher

767
00:35:57,430 --> 00:35:55,680
tv host film director chad is going to

768
00:35:58,950 --> 00:35:57,440
be joining us to talk about his new film

769
00:36:00,950 --> 00:35:58,960
it's called phantom writer

770
00:36:03,270 --> 00:36:00,960
and also we're going to talk about his

771
00:36:04,310 --> 00:36:03,280
new five picture deal with gravitas

772
00:36:06,230 --> 00:36:04,320
features

773
00:36:07,990 --> 00:36:06,240
and the current state of the ufo

774
00:36:08,870 --> 00:36:08,000
question all of that is happening chad

775
00:36:10,950 --> 00:36:08,880
has spent

776
00:36:12,790 --> 00:36:10,960
over 25 years investigating the world's

777
00:36:14,710 --> 00:36:12,800
most haunted locations in search for

778
00:36:15,990 --> 00:36:14,720
answers to the bizarre the mysterious

779
00:36:17,589 --> 00:36:16,000
and the unexplained

780
00:36:19,589 --> 00:36:17,599
although known for capturing some of the

781
00:36:20,950 --> 00:36:19,599
most compelling evidence in the history

782
00:36:23,910 --> 00:36:20,960
of the paranormal field

783
00:36:24,550 --> 00:36:23,920
he's also developed a reputation as a

784
00:36:27,109 --> 00:36:24,560
staunch

785
00:36:28,950 --> 00:36:27,119
debunker who has discovered rational

786
00:36:30,870 --> 00:36:28,960
explanations to many of the world's most

787
00:36:32,790 --> 00:36:30,880
famous paranormal legends

788
00:36:34,870 --> 00:36:32,800
he is also the director and producer of

789
00:36:38,310 --> 00:36:34,880
american ghost hunter documentary

790
00:36:42,069 --> 00:36:38,320
sir no face and also part two to face

791
00:36:43,829 --> 00:36:42,079
the gray phantom writer is part three

792
00:36:45,750 --> 00:36:43,839
and all of the links for chat are over

793
00:36:47,190 --> 00:36:45,760
at jimmychurchradio.com i'd like to

794
00:36:47,990 --> 00:36:47,200
welcome back to fade to black chat hey

795
00:36:50,310 --> 00:36:48,000
look chad

796
00:36:52,550 --> 00:36:50,320
how you doing my man i'm doing great

797
00:36:53,270 --> 00:36:52,560
that is a wonderful introduction thank

798
00:36:57,270 --> 00:36:53,280
you my friend

799
00:36:59,670 --> 00:36:57,280
i haven't seen you uh for almost a year

800
00:37:00,950 --> 00:36:59,680
yeah man and we're not we're freaking

801
00:37:03,270 --> 00:37:00,960
neighbors

802
00:37:04,790 --> 00:37:03,280
i know i know i think we talked about

803
00:37:06,630 --> 00:37:04,800
getting together to

804
00:37:08,069 --> 00:37:06,640
barbecue or something and it never went

805
00:37:10,950 --> 00:37:08,079
down it didn't go

806
00:37:11,270 --> 00:37:10,960
it didn't go down for anybody let's just

807
00:37:13,750 --> 00:37:11,280
say

808
00:37:14,550 --> 00:37:13,760
koben went down that's what happened abs

809
00:37:17,030 --> 00:37:14,560
absolutely

810
00:37:18,310 --> 00:37:17,040
so obviously we know what you've been up

811
00:37:21,670 --> 00:37:18,320
to over the last year

812
00:37:21,990 --> 00:37:21,680
is is phantom rider and and putting this

813
00:37:25,589 --> 00:37:22,000
film

814
00:37:28,870 --> 00:37:25,599
together um uh one of the things that

815
00:37:31,030 --> 00:37:28,880
most uh people may not know about you

816
00:37:32,150 --> 00:37:31,040
is you you pretty much handle all

817
00:37:35,270 --> 00:37:32,160
aspects of

818
00:37:38,310 --> 00:37:35,280
the production um except for

819
00:37:41,030 --> 00:37:38,320
some of the music right yeah i have

820
00:37:42,470 --> 00:37:41,040
um a tremendous team behind me that

821
00:37:43,109 --> 00:37:42,480
helps me with the business side of it

822
00:37:44,790 --> 00:37:43,119
all

823
00:37:46,470 --> 00:37:44,800
and when it comes to the physical film

824
00:37:49,910 --> 00:37:46,480
production side of it all yeah we

825
00:37:50,390 --> 00:37:49,920
uh i i'm the editor of my films i direct

826
00:37:54,150 --> 00:37:50,400
them

827
00:37:56,310 --> 00:37:54,160
producing partner

828
00:37:57,990 --> 00:37:56,320
thomas lee bottom who's also my partner

829
00:37:59,750 --> 00:37:58,000
with my production company

830
00:38:01,109 --> 00:37:59,760
and uh he's incredible got a great

831
00:38:04,150 --> 00:38:01,119
management team

832
00:38:06,390 --> 00:38:04,160
um but yeah we're all in house

833
00:38:08,390 --> 00:38:06,400
and as you mentioned earlier uh we're

834
00:38:11,030 --> 00:38:08,400
very fortunate we just landed a five

835
00:38:12,630 --> 00:38:11,040
picture deal for worldwide distribution

836
00:38:12,950 --> 00:38:12,640
through gravitas which is pretty unheard

837
00:38:15,109 --> 00:38:12,960
of

838
00:38:17,109 --> 00:38:15,119
so yeah i was pretty excited about that

839
00:38:19,589 --> 00:38:17,119
yeah and congratulations

840
00:38:21,109 --> 00:38:19,599
um i want the audience to know this is

841
00:38:23,349 --> 00:38:21,119
what's really weird

842
00:38:24,550 --> 00:38:23,359
i love the universe and how it works but

843
00:38:27,190 --> 00:38:24,560
last week

844
00:38:28,950 --> 00:38:27,200
uh chad uh text me you know and it's

845
00:38:29,589 --> 00:38:28,960
just like hey dude what's up i get the

846
00:38:32,630 --> 00:38:29,599
text

847
00:38:34,470 --> 00:38:32,640
and rita and i are uh

848
00:38:36,710 --> 00:38:34,480
we were having breakfast in bed all

849
00:38:38,710 --> 00:38:36,720
right that's what was going down and

850
00:38:40,390 --> 00:38:38,720
and we're we're settling in for the

851
00:38:43,589 --> 00:38:40,400
evening i turned on the tv

852
00:38:46,630 --> 00:38:43,599
five minutes after chad's text

853
00:38:49,349 --> 00:38:46,640
sir no face is the recommended film up

854
00:38:49,990 --> 00:38:49,359
on the television screen it's like what

855
00:38:52,790 --> 00:38:50,000
what are the

856
00:38:53,510 --> 00:38:52,800
odds of that happening chad i you know

857
00:38:56,550 --> 00:38:53,520
unless that's

858
00:38:58,230 --> 00:38:56,560
wild yeah unless you knew right you just

859
00:38:59,430 --> 00:38:58,240
texted me because you knew it was gonna

860
00:39:02,550 --> 00:38:59,440
pop up in my feed

861
00:39:03,510 --> 00:39:02,560
right no that's great feedback for the

862
00:39:05,349 --> 00:39:03,520
distributor

863
00:39:07,270 --> 00:39:05,359
but look yeah i think anybody's dream

864
00:39:09,910 --> 00:39:07,280
when you set out to be a

865
00:39:11,510 --> 00:39:09,920
filmmaker is to have final cut first and

866
00:39:12,630 --> 00:39:11,520
foremost to be able to control what

867
00:39:14,870 --> 00:39:12,640
you're releasing

868
00:39:16,550 --> 00:39:14,880
uh which we have full final cut and the

869
00:39:17,109 --> 00:39:16,560
ability to take something from your edit

870
00:39:20,390 --> 00:39:17,119
bay

871
00:39:23,829 --> 00:39:20,400
to around the world uh is incredible um

872
00:39:25,990 --> 00:39:23,839
we had an amazing uh first uh

873
00:39:27,349 --> 00:39:26,000
run with american ghost hunter and uh

874
00:39:29,990 --> 00:39:27,359
just last week

875
00:39:31,349 --> 00:39:30,000
uh they released to face the gray to

876
00:39:32,230 --> 00:39:31,359
make sure it was out before phantom

877
00:39:34,470 --> 00:39:32,240
rider was out

878
00:39:36,790 --> 00:39:34,480
right and uh you know they were

879
00:39:38,630 --> 00:39:36,800
successful in landing in over 200

880
00:39:40,710 --> 00:39:38,640
million us homes

881
00:39:42,069 --> 00:39:40,720
picked up on comcast cable like you name

882
00:39:44,390 --> 00:39:42,079
it it's out there yeah yeah

883
00:39:46,550 --> 00:39:44,400
it popped up on my screen immediately

884
00:39:47,510 --> 00:39:46,560
but you just mentioned i'm gonna jump

885
00:39:49,990 --> 00:39:47,520
ahead

886
00:39:50,550 --> 00:39:50,000
and and back up you just mentioned that

887
00:39:54,630 --> 00:39:50,560
you

888
00:39:56,310 --> 00:39:54,640
that's that's great that's what every

889
00:40:01,510 --> 00:39:56,320
director wants right

890
00:40:08,870 --> 00:40:05,030
yeah somebody somebody decided

891
00:40:12,309 --> 00:40:08,880
that they wanted final cut and uh

892
00:40:15,589 --> 00:40:12,319
and you showed me the video in real time

893
00:40:17,670 --> 00:40:15,599
of your computer being taken over uh

894
00:40:19,510 --> 00:40:17,680
that that kind of freaked me out uh take

895
00:40:19,910 --> 00:40:19,520
the audience through that really quick

896
00:40:23,270 --> 00:40:19,920
what

897
00:40:26,550 --> 00:40:23,280
was

898
00:40:27,829 --> 00:40:26,560
had literally just finished up the edit

899
00:40:29,270 --> 00:40:27,839
to phantom writer

900
00:40:31,030 --> 00:40:29,280
and as we're going to talk about this is

901
00:40:34,069 --> 00:40:31,040
a long winding story

902
00:40:35,990 --> 00:40:34,079
um but what it partially involves

903
00:40:37,430 --> 00:40:36,000
is a lot of really bizarre things that

904
00:40:39,109 --> 00:40:37,440
started happening

905
00:40:40,710 --> 00:40:39,119
in the realm of surveillance from from

906
00:40:42,309 --> 00:40:40,720
things that i've documented weird things

907
00:40:44,309 --> 00:40:42,319
with our phones

908
00:40:45,910 --> 00:40:44,319
with my television with my web being

909
00:40:48,390 --> 00:40:45,920
hacked my email

910
00:40:50,390 --> 00:40:48,400
and so i get to the end of this you know

911
00:40:52,870 --> 00:40:50,400
very telling film of

912
00:40:54,309 --> 00:40:52,880
what you know uh my partner and i from

913
00:40:56,390 --> 00:40:54,319
australia are dealing with

914
00:40:57,750 --> 00:40:56,400
and i finally get the film done and i'm

915
00:40:59,589 --> 00:40:57,760
gonna render it out but this is the

916
00:41:02,309 --> 00:40:59,599
final copy i'm gonna render it out

917
00:41:03,030 --> 00:41:02,319
right and suddenly my computer literally

918
00:41:06,550 --> 00:41:03,040
just

919
00:41:08,309 --> 00:41:06,560
like none of the keys work but all this

920
00:41:11,670 --> 00:41:08,319
stuff just starts going up on the

921
00:41:12,870 --> 00:41:11,680
screen and all the the raw files turn

922
00:41:14,470 --> 00:41:12,880
different colors

923
00:41:16,870 --> 00:41:14,480
and you could see somebody take a

924
00:41:18,550 --> 00:41:16,880
screenshot as if they're like bragging

925
00:41:20,870 --> 00:41:18,560
like they want to get a screenshot of

926
00:41:22,230 --> 00:41:20,880
what's going on and

927
00:41:24,150 --> 00:41:22,240
i i couldn't do anything and the

928
00:41:25,109 --> 00:41:24,160
computer ended up just being locked and

929
00:41:27,190 --> 00:41:25,119
then it just

930
00:41:28,309 --> 00:41:27,200
went completely to black and when i

931
00:41:31,190 --> 00:41:28,319
started back up

932
00:41:31,990 --> 00:41:31,200
all of the raw files the raw media files

933
00:41:34,390 --> 00:41:32,000
to that

934
00:41:35,589 --> 00:41:34,400
that final cut edit were completely

935
00:41:37,190 --> 00:41:35,599
corrupted

936
00:41:38,710 --> 00:41:37,200
so the film was gone like none of the

937
00:41:39,990 --> 00:41:38,720
files would open up they wouldn't go

938
00:41:42,950 --> 00:41:40,000
back to i did nothing

939
00:41:44,630 --> 00:41:42,960
thankfully i run a clone drive the

940
00:41:46,150 --> 00:41:44,640
entire time to everything that i'm doing

941
00:41:46,790 --> 00:41:46,160
and every night i dump that onto cold

942
00:41:49,190 --> 00:41:46,800
storage

943
00:41:50,870 --> 00:41:49,200
a drive that's not connected to the web

944
00:41:51,589 --> 00:41:50,880
so i still had all the files so

945
00:41:54,710 --> 00:41:51,599
thankfully

946
00:41:55,750 --> 00:41:54,720
it was safe but someone literally hacked

947
00:41:58,390 --> 00:41:55,760
and destroyed

948
00:41:59,670 --> 00:41:58,400
the the the cut and you could see it

949
00:42:01,589 --> 00:41:59,680
happen in real time

950
00:42:03,270 --> 00:42:01,599
you could hear my response and my wife's

951
00:42:04,309 --> 00:42:03,280
response is she's watching it going what

952
00:42:06,790 --> 00:42:04,319
is going on

953
00:42:07,510 --> 00:42:06,800
i'm like i i have no idea listen i've

954
00:42:08,950 --> 00:42:07,520
seen them

955
00:42:10,069 --> 00:42:08,960
you know a million lockups and

956
00:42:11,990 --> 00:42:10,079
everything else i've been editing

957
00:42:12,870 --> 00:42:12,000
forever i know what's normal and what's

958
00:42:15,349 --> 00:42:12,880
not

959
00:42:16,150 --> 00:42:15,359
happens all the time lockups happen all

960
00:42:18,630 --> 00:42:16,160
the time

961
00:42:19,190 --> 00:42:18,640
yeah and what was going on here was so

962
00:42:21,589 --> 00:42:19,200
not

963
00:42:22,230 --> 00:42:21,599
normal because it wasn't that it was

964
00:42:24,550 --> 00:42:22,240
locked up

965
00:42:25,270 --> 00:42:24,560
i was just locked out right there was

966
00:42:28,630 --> 00:42:25,280
all kinds of

967
00:42:31,829 --> 00:42:28,640
so when i initially put that footage out

968
00:42:33,990 --> 00:42:31,839
i had a girl get a hold of me

969
00:42:35,030 --> 00:42:34,000
and say you know hey i've seen this

970
00:42:37,190 --> 00:42:35,040
before

971
00:42:39,190 --> 00:42:37,200
this type of you know hack that they did

972
00:42:41,109 --> 00:42:39,200
in the taking of the screenshot

973
00:42:43,349 --> 00:42:41,119
uh she she gave me a name of the group

974
00:42:46,150 --> 00:42:43,359
at hefty mirror but she said

975
00:42:47,190 --> 00:42:46,160
they often post stuff on 4chan which is

976
00:42:49,190 --> 00:42:47,200
you know a place where

977
00:42:50,630 --> 00:42:49,200
people love to pho you know post stuff

978
00:42:52,069 --> 00:42:50,640
when they're messing with people

979
00:42:54,309 --> 00:42:52,079
and she's like so you definitely got

980
00:42:56,309 --> 00:42:54,319
hacked by somebody with a

981
00:42:59,430 --> 00:42:56,319
with a trademark that was doing it on

982
00:43:00,790 --> 00:42:59,440
purpose and i'm just sitting there going

983
00:43:02,550 --> 00:43:00,800
you know when you see everything else

984
00:43:05,510 --> 00:43:02,560
that's in the film

985
00:43:06,630 --> 00:43:05,520
it's it's terrifying because you we

986
00:43:10,230 --> 00:43:06,640
really get to the point

987
00:43:12,309 --> 00:43:10,240
where you just don't feel comfortable

988
00:43:14,069 --> 00:43:12,319
you can't feel comfortable and you feel

989
00:43:14,710 --> 00:43:14,079
like your entire life is being hacked

990
00:43:16,309 --> 00:43:14,720
and there's

991
00:43:17,750 --> 00:43:16,319
obviously some other very scary stuff in

992
00:43:21,030 --> 00:43:17,760
the film we'll get into

993
00:43:22,870 --> 00:43:21,040
that preceded this but yeah so uh

994
00:43:24,870 --> 00:43:22,880
the weird thing was and i was incredibly

995
00:43:26,790 --> 00:43:24,880
lucky to have recorded it

996
00:43:28,390 --> 00:43:26,800
because literally at that time i was

997
00:43:30,950 --> 00:43:28,400
recording a message to my partner

998
00:43:31,670 --> 00:43:30,960
saying hey guys i'm done here's the line

999
00:43:33,829 --> 00:43:31,680
it's over

1000
00:43:34,710 --> 00:43:33,839
you know what i mean and then you know

1001
00:43:36,950 --> 00:43:34,720
that went down

1002
00:43:38,309 --> 00:43:36,960
yeah watching a mouse move around on

1003
00:43:41,270 --> 00:43:38,319
your computer screen

1004
00:43:41,750 --> 00:43:41,280
uh when it's not you is a pretty messed

1005
00:43:44,870 --> 00:43:41,760
up thing

1006
00:43:46,470 --> 00:43:44,880
i've never gone through it i have to

1007
00:43:48,550 --> 00:43:46,480
stop and pause here for a second i've

1008
00:43:51,109 --> 00:43:48,560
had some weird things go down

1009
00:43:52,230 --> 00:43:51,119
i'm not sure i've ever had that right a

1010
00:43:55,270 --> 00:43:52,240
takeover

1011
00:43:56,390 --> 00:43:55,280
um now let's do this uh before we break

1012
00:43:59,750 --> 00:43:56,400
to the next

1013
00:44:00,710 --> 00:43:59,760
segment this uh phantom writer is part

1014
00:44:03,750 --> 00:44:00,720
three

1015
00:44:07,109 --> 00:44:03,760
yes uh to to this series of films

1016
00:44:11,349 --> 00:44:07,119
so let's let's go back a little bit and

1017
00:44:14,790 --> 00:44:11,359
and what was the original intention

1018
00:44:17,589 --> 00:44:14,800
behind sir no face

1019
00:44:19,910 --> 00:44:17,599
which is part one yes sir no face is

1020
00:44:23,270 --> 00:44:19,920
released guys it's on itunes uh

1021
00:44:26,390 --> 00:44:23,280
it's out there everywhere um it that was

1022
00:44:30,069 --> 00:44:26,400
originally going to be a stand-alone

1023
00:44:31,510 --> 00:44:30,079
film about craig powell this gentleman i

1024
00:44:33,829 --> 00:44:31,520
met in australia

1025
00:44:35,750 --> 00:44:33,839
while on tour who showed me this

1026
00:44:38,950 --> 00:44:35,760
incredible footage he had

1027
00:44:42,390 --> 00:44:38,960
of this entity and he was

1028
00:44:44,309 --> 00:44:42,400
hired by the australian government um

1029
00:44:45,910 --> 00:44:44,319
and he and they sent him out to cockatoo

1030
00:44:48,950 --> 00:44:45,920
island in uh

1031
00:44:52,390 --> 00:44:48,960
is in sydney harbor to this old

1032
00:44:53,750 --> 00:44:52,400
um royal naval base because they

1033
00:44:55,829 --> 00:44:53,760
the government could keep their own

1034
00:44:57,109 --> 00:44:55,839
employees hired there and they wanted to

1035
00:44:58,150 --> 00:44:57,119
know what was going on that's what they

1036
00:45:00,470 --> 00:44:58,160
told him

1037
00:45:02,150 --> 00:45:00,480
so he went out there they offered him

1038
00:45:03,910 --> 00:45:02,160
crazy amounts of money they gave him

1039
00:45:04,870 --> 00:45:03,920
full access to the place let him live

1040
00:45:07,109 --> 00:45:04,880
out there

1041
00:45:09,190 --> 00:45:07,119
and he started capturing footage unlike

1042
00:45:09,510 --> 00:45:09,200
anything i've ever seen before so it was

1043
00:45:17,030 --> 00:45:09,520
a

1044
00:45:20,309 --> 00:45:17,040
point

1045
00:45:21,910 --> 00:45:20,319
nothing he was told they they were

1046
00:45:23,670 --> 00:45:21,920
certain it was a ghost they believed it

1047
00:45:24,309 --> 00:45:23,680
was a ghost that's why they contacted

1048
00:45:25,990 --> 00:45:24,319
him

1049
00:45:27,750 --> 00:45:26,000
he had his own ghost hunting team that

1050
00:45:30,790 --> 00:45:27,760
did very well around there

1051
00:45:31,430 --> 00:45:30,800
and that was the lens that he approached

1052
00:45:33,670 --> 00:45:31,440
it on

1053
00:45:35,510 --> 00:45:33,680
and that was the lens that he you know

1054
00:45:38,710 --> 00:45:35,520
showed the footage to me on

1055
00:45:41,030 --> 00:45:38,720
um so that first film is me

1056
00:45:42,069 --> 00:45:41,040
honestly trying to debunk him trying to

1057
00:45:44,230 --> 00:45:42,079
figure out how

1058
00:45:46,069 --> 00:45:44,240
he could have possibly faked this

1059
00:45:48,710 --> 00:45:46,079
because there's some staggering stuff

1060
00:45:50,230 --> 00:45:48,720
like the there was this light phenomena

1061
00:45:52,150 --> 00:45:50,240
where on call

1062
00:45:54,550 --> 00:45:52,160
uh this entity that they called sir no

1063
00:45:56,710 --> 00:45:54,560
face could make a room light up

1064
00:45:58,470 --> 00:45:56,720
like a lightning bolt went off and not

1065
00:46:00,230 --> 00:45:58,480
once not twice

1066
00:46:01,910 --> 00:46:00,240
you know dozens of times when everything

1067
00:46:03,270 --> 00:46:01,920
wants to happen to the point where they

1068
00:46:05,109 --> 00:46:03,280
went and got the government

1069
00:46:06,550 --> 00:46:05,119
and brought them out and showed the

1070
00:46:08,710 --> 00:46:06,560
government and they

1071
00:46:11,589 --> 00:46:08,720
freaked out completely um but then he

1072
00:46:14,230 --> 00:46:11,599
had this this stellar footage

1073
00:46:15,750 --> 00:46:14,240
of this entity that they came to call

1074
00:46:16,790 --> 00:46:15,760
cern no face because of the building

1075
00:46:19,750 --> 00:46:16,800
that was in

1076
00:46:20,309 --> 00:46:19,760
um it was the the officer's quarters so

1077
00:46:22,550 --> 00:46:20,319
officer

1078
00:46:24,470 --> 00:46:22,560
sir and no face was a nickname because

1079
00:46:25,030 --> 00:46:24,480
of the way the face had contours but it

1080
00:46:30,069 --> 00:46:25,040
didn't

1081
00:46:31,589 --> 00:46:30,079
so i spent two years trying to debunk

1082
00:46:34,230 --> 00:46:31,599
this guy and

1083
00:46:35,990 --> 00:46:34,240
all i was able to do is through my

1084
00:46:39,510 --> 00:46:36,000
attempts to debunk him

1085
00:46:42,390 --> 00:46:39,520
was to prove for sure it was

1086
00:46:43,030 --> 00:46:42,400
whatever's on film is an entity of some

1087
00:46:44,790 --> 00:46:43,040
type

1088
00:46:46,790 --> 00:46:44,800
because we're going into it and we're

1089
00:46:48,470 --> 00:46:46,800
being told it's a paranormal case

1090
00:46:50,630 --> 00:46:48,480
i'm assuming well if it's not human then

1091
00:46:55,430 --> 00:46:50,640
it's a ghost that's what it is

1092
00:46:58,710 --> 00:46:55,440
and um so that was the first film

1093
00:47:00,309 --> 00:46:58,720
when we took that on the road i was

1094
00:47:02,150 --> 00:47:00,319
shocked because whenever you make big

1095
00:47:02,710 --> 00:47:02,160
statements like look this is definitive

1096
00:47:04,309 --> 00:47:02,720
footage

1097
00:47:06,230 --> 00:47:04,319
right you think you know you know you're

1098
00:47:08,309 --> 00:47:06,240
gonna get you're gonna get beat down by

1099
00:47:10,950 --> 00:47:08,319
people just part of what it is

1100
00:47:12,230 --> 00:47:10,960
but i'm telling you man i didn't hear a

1101
00:47:14,470 --> 00:47:12,240
single person

1102
00:47:16,309 --> 00:47:14,480
and this is a 28 city tour packed out

1103
00:47:19,349 --> 00:47:16,319
every night close to a thousand people

1104
00:47:21,109 --> 00:47:19,359
i didn't hear a single person tell me no

1105
00:47:23,109 --> 00:47:21,119
you're wrong

1106
00:47:24,710 --> 00:47:23,119
that's not a ghost what i heard and what

1107
00:47:25,430 --> 00:47:24,720
craig heard and what we started seeing

1108
00:47:28,790 --> 00:47:25,440
online

1109
00:47:33,030 --> 00:47:28,800
everywhere was you're wrong

1110
00:47:35,270 --> 00:47:33,040
it's not a ghost it's a gray alien

1111
00:47:36,470 --> 00:47:35,280
in which you told me that was your

1112
00:47:39,190 --> 00:47:36,480
initial thought as well

1113
00:47:41,190 --> 00:47:39,200
yes that's right which is crazy because

1114
00:47:43,270 --> 00:47:41,200
we heard that non-stop

1115
00:47:45,750 --> 00:47:43,280
and it was about a good six months of

1116
00:47:48,710 --> 00:47:45,760
being pelted every single day

1117
00:47:49,109 --> 00:47:48,720
of people saying reopen this like go

1118
00:47:52,470 --> 00:47:49,119
back

1119
00:47:54,790 --> 00:47:52,480
and look at this through a lens of a

1120
00:47:56,870 --> 00:47:54,800
you know ufologist and admittedly i'm

1121
00:48:00,230 --> 00:47:56,880
not a you apologize yeah i remember

1122
00:48:01,829 --> 00:48:00,240
uh after i saw the film and you called

1123
00:48:04,870 --> 00:48:01,839
me up and said so what'd you think

1124
00:48:08,069 --> 00:48:04,880
it's a dude ah i don't think that's a

1125
00:48:12,069 --> 00:48:11,190
i know you know and when i suggested a

1126
00:48:15,109 --> 00:48:12,079
gray

1127
00:48:17,990 --> 00:48:15,119
at that point uh chad

1128
00:48:20,309 --> 00:48:18,000
um you and i remember you and i having

1129
00:48:21,109 --> 00:48:20,319
all of these conversations you didn't

1130
00:48:22,870 --> 00:48:21,119
know

1131
00:48:24,630 --> 00:48:22,880
pretty much anything about the ufo

1132
00:48:27,030 --> 00:48:24,640
subject yeah i mean i

1133
00:48:28,710 --> 00:48:27,040
i was a fan like anybody who's into the

1134
00:48:32,870 --> 00:48:28,720
bizarre the mysterious but

1135
00:48:35,270 --> 00:48:32,880
my not my knowledge was admittedly

1136
00:48:36,150 --> 00:48:35,280
naive yeah he's right i'm not the dude

1137
00:48:39,510 --> 00:48:36,160
that can

1138
00:48:40,470 --> 00:48:39,520
go ripping down you know 20 past cases

1139
00:48:43,270 --> 00:48:40,480
and do anything

1140
00:48:45,109 --> 00:48:43,280
so i i really was like well you know

1141
00:48:45,829 --> 00:48:45,119
there were a lot of weird things that

1142
00:48:48,710 --> 00:48:45,839
happened

1143
00:48:51,190 --> 00:48:48,720
when we were making the film including

1144
00:48:52,790 --> 00:48:51,200
the night that we announced in australia

1145
00:48:53,910 --> 00:48:52,800
that we were going to make this sir no

1146
00:48:57,109 --> 00:48:53,920
face film

1147
00:49:00,710 --> 00:48:57,119
some guy bought like a vip ticket

1148
00:49:02,790 --> 00:49:00,720
at my event and he was wearing all black

1149
00:49:04,790 --> 00:49:02,800
had tattoos on his face and he handed me

1150
00:49:07,510 --> 00:49:04,800
this box

1151
00:49:08,069 --> 00:49:07,520
of all this ufo stuff and he told me

1152
00:49:09,990 --> 00:49:08,079
this

1153
00:49:12,390 --> 00:49:10,000
incredibly interesting story where he

1154
00:49:15,270 --> 00:49:12,400
said he got knifed and smuggled

1155
00:49:15,829 --> 00:49:15,280
or he got shot and knifed to get this

1156
00:49:18,069 --> 00:49:15,839
information

1157
00:49:20,309 --> 00:49:18,079
out of mexico he didn't want money

1158
00:49:21,829 --> 00:49:20,319
didn't want press wouldn't do press

1159
00:49:23,430 --> 00:49:21,839
didn't want anything but that was

1160
00:49:25,109 --> 00:49:23,440
basically his insurance policy because

1161
00:49:26,870 --> 00:49:25,119
nobody knew we were connected

1162
00:49:28,870 --> 00:49:26,880
right and he just wanted me to look at

1163
00:49:29,990 --> 00:49:28,880
and so i'm back in my room looking at

1164
00:49:33,589 --> 00:49:30,000
this going why would he give

1165
00:49:36,390 --> 00:49:33,599
this to me man like i'm not the ufo guy

1166
00:49:36,950 --> 00:49:36,400
you know right and then craig started

1167
00:49:38,950 --> 00:49:36,960
bringing up

1168
00:49:40,710 --> 00:49:38,960
different details and things about their

1169
00:49:43,270 --> 00:49:40,720
investigation

1170
00:49:45,349 --> 00:49:43,280
that made total sense in the ufo realm

1171
00:49:46,390 --> 00:49:45,359
the thing like the loss of time

1172
00:49:48,230 --> 00:49:46,400
that they had when they were

1173
00:49:49,829 --> 00:49:48,240
investigating um and there was a number

1174
00:49:50,870 --> 00:49:49,839
of other things that that came out of

1175
00:49:53,270 --> 00:49:50,880
the film

1176
00:49:54,390 --> 00:49:53,280
um so we said well let's do this then

1177
00:49:59,030 --> 00:49:54,400
let's

1178
00:49:59,990 --> 00:49:59,040
i'm not a ufologist so i'm kind of the

1179
00:50:02,230 --> 00:50:00,000
perfect guy

1180
00:50:03,589 --> 00:50:02,240
in in that in the sense that i'm just

1181
00:50:04,230 --> 00:50:03,599
going to walk in and start asking

1182
00:50:08,069 --> 00:50:04,240
questions

1183
00:50:10,870 --> 00:50:08,079
right now and man i am telling you

1184
00:50:12,309 --> 00:50:10,880
the more the more and more we went down

1185
00:50:15,670 --> 00:50:12,319
that road

1186
00:50:19,030 --> 00:50:15,680
the more and more

1187
00:50:20,950 --> 00:50:19,040
my world became so bizarre where

1188
00:50:22,230 --> 00:50:20,960
suddenly my emails are getting hacked

1189
00:50:25,349 --> 00:50:22,240
constantly

1190
00:50:28,309 --> 00:50:25,359
my phone which is documented well is

1191
00:50:29,270 --> 00:50:28,319
doing the craziest things um when we're

1192
00:50:32,150 --> 00:50:29,280
on it

1193
00:50:34,950 --> 00:50:32,160
um there was a there was definitely for

1194
00:50:38,150 --> 00:50:34,960
sure a car that was following me

1195
00:50:39,750 --> 00:50:38,160
um but craig man the stuff that started

1196
00:50:42,470 --> 00:50:39,760
happening to him

1197
00:50:44,390 --> 00:50:42,480
which was which was in australia you're

1198
00:50:47,109 --> 00:50:44,400
back here in the states

1199
00:50:47,750 --> 00:50:47,119
uh cars are following you the craziness

1200
00:50:50,150 --> 00:50:47,760
has started

1201
00:50:51,190 --> 00:50:50,160
weird bleeps and clicks and you know

1202
00:50:54,150 --> 00:50:51,200
there you go

1203
00:50:55,510 --> 00:50:54,160
but uh craig craig powell is is back in

1204
00:50:58,549 --> 00:50:55,520
australia

1205
00:51:00,549 --> 00:50:58,559
and he's having stuff happen to him with

1206
00:51:01,829 --> 00:51:00,559
people showing up on his property at the

1207
00:51:04,870 --> 00:51:01,839
end of the driveway

1208
00:51:06,549 --> 00:51:04,880
his family his kids uh but that was in

1209
00:51:09,030 --> 00:51:06,559
australia so this was

1210
00:51:10,470 --> 00:51:09,040
you know this was intercontinental what

1211
00:51:12,309 --> 00:51:10,480
was weird is it was all happening

1212
00:51:13,109 --> 00:51:12,319
simultaneously like there's you know one

1213
00:51:14,870 --> 00:51:13,119
part of the film

1214
00:51:16,390 --> 00:51:14,880
where i'm questioning something that

1215
00:51:17,910 --> 00:51:16,400
happened to me and i get a phone call

1216
00:51:20,069 --> 00:51:17,920
from his wife

1217
00:51:22,470 --> 00:51:20,079
and she's like listen craig's looking

1218
00:51:25,030 --> 00:51:22,480
you know looking for a pay phone

1219
00:51:25,589 --> 00:51:25,040
to call you like he's scared like you

1220
00:51:28,230 --> 00:51:25,599
you gotta

1221
00:51:29,829 --> 00:51:28,240
you know something happened and then you

1222
00:51:31,670 --> 00:51:29,839
know i find out

1223
00:51:32,870 --> 00:51:31,680
yeah these guys came to his house and

1224
00:51:35,190 --> 00:51:32,880
they threatened him to

1225
00:51:36,549 --> 00:51:35,200
walk away uh they had some kind of

1226
00:51:38,390 --> 00:51:36,559
something that caused him to have a

1227
00:51:41,430 --> 00:51:38,400
headache and a nosebleed

1228
00:51:44,390 --> 00:51:41,440
and like look let me say this too when

1229
00:51:46,790 --> 00:51:44,400
i'm hearing this stuff

1230
00:51:47,670 --> 00:51:46,800
if if i didn't spend two years trying to

1231
00:51:50,630 --> 00:51:47,680
debunk him

1232
00:51:51,349 --> 00:51:50,640
and finding out what kind of a man he is

1233
00:51:53,190 --> 00:51:51,359
and if i didn't

1234
00:51:55,109 --> 00:51:53,200
know him like of course look at me i

1235
00:51:57,190 --> 00:51:55,119
would go dude you are crazy

1236
00:51:58,710 --> 00:51:57,200
but when i'm when the weirdest things in

1237
00:52:00,630 --> 00:51:58,720
the world are happening to me

1238
00:52:01,750 --> 00:52:00,640
consistently and they're happening the

1239
00:52:03,349 --> 00:52:01,760
same time with him

1240
00:52:04,950 --> 00:52:03,359
like i hadn't even told them but i

1241
00:52:06,390 --> 00:52:04,960
thought it was being followed and you

1242
00:52:08,309 --> 00:52:06,400
can see in the film when his wife

1243
00:52:09,990 --> 00:52:08,319
sends me the video saying i'm being

1244
00:52:12,390 --> 00:52:10,000
followed his wife

1245
00:52:13,030 --> 00:52:12,400
describes the same exact car at the same

1246
00:52:15,430 --> 00:52:13,040
time

1247
00:52:17,109 --> 00:52:15,440
i'm like oh my god and what it seemed to

1248
00:52:20,870 --> 00:52:17,119
be at that time is just a

1249
00:52:23,670 --> 00:52:20,880
massive campaign to intimidate

1250
00:52:25,030 --> 00:52:23,680
that's what it seemed to be to me um

1251
00:52:28,630 --> 00:52:25,040
just too many things

1252
00:52:30,470 --> 00:52:28,640
were happening and at the end of

1253
00:52:32,069 --> 00:52:30,480
to face the grave we had got to this

1254
00:52:35,030 --> 00:52:32,079
point where we were

1255
00:52:36,390 --> 00:52:35,040
we were kind of like you know how far

1256
00:52:40,150 --> 00:52:36,400
are we going to push this

1257
00:52:41,910 --> 00:52:40,160
like because you know

1258
00:52:43,109 --> 00:52:41,920
as we see in phantom rider what you'll

1259
00:52:44,309 --> 00:52:43,119
see there's a part there and we

1260
00:52:45,589 --> 00:52:44,319
discussed it last time that's why i'm

1261
00:52:46,390 --> 00:52:45,599
okay with bringing it up without playing

1262
00:52:48,549 --> 00:52:46,400
the spoiler

1263
00:52:50,950 --> 00:52:48,559
but we talked about how there were

1264
00:52:52,470 --> 00:52:50,960
people watching his house at night

1265
00:52:54,390 --> 00:52:52,480
and he finally snuck out of his house

1266
00:52:56,230 --> 00:52:54,400
and got a photo of him

1267
00:52:57,589 --> 00:52:56,240
and he had like this glowing head like

1268
00:52:59,349 --> 00:52:57,599
this really weird

1269
00:53:00,630 --> 00:52:59,359
like really bizarre stuff was going on

1270
00:53:04,630 --> 00:53:00,640
with him

1271
00:53:07,670 --> 00:53:04,640
and when we left off at the end of

1272
00:53:08,390 --> 00:53:07,680
to face the gray my goal and intention

1273
00:53:11,430 --> 00:53:08,400
at that time

1274
00:53:12,470 --> 00:53:11,440
was to go back to oh we're

1275
00:53:14,069 --> 00:53:12,480
i'm sorry we're forgetting the biggest

1276
00:53:14,790 --> 00:53:14,079
part of this in the middle of this whole

1277
00:53:17,349 --> 00:53:14,800
thing

1278
00:53:18,549 --> 00:53:17,359
i get this book long like i mean book

1279
00:53:20,630 --> 00:53:18,559
long email

1280
00:53:22,790 --> 00:53:20,640
from this guy who goes by the name of

1281
00:53:26,790 --> 00:53:22,800
daniel david skyfall

1282
00:53:30,150 --> 00:53:26,800
and he claims that he worked for

1283
00:53:31,190 --> 00:53:30,160
an agency an intelligence agency and his

1284
00:53:34,549 --> 00:53:31,200
job

1285
00:53:36,069 --> 00:53:34,559
was to go

1286
00:53:38,549 --> 00:53:36,079
online and throughout the world to make

1287
00:53:41,109 --> 00:53:38,559
make people look stupid basically

1288
00:53:41,750 --> 00:53:41,119
and he started saying there's he

1289
00:53:43,910 --> 00:53:41,760
realized

1290
00:53:46,470 --> 00:53:43,920
how that was how much damage he was

1291
00:53:49,030 --> 00:53:46,480
doing and that he was being used

1292
00:53:50,390 --> 00:53:49,040
and he wants he basically he was a black

1293
00:53:53,829 --> 00:53:50,400
hat turned white hat right

1294
00:53:54,230 --> 00:53:53,839
and he wants to help now and i put him

1295
00:53:56,710 --> 00:53:54,240
through

1296
00:53:58,710 --> 00:53:56,720
so much because i was just like dude you

1297
00:53:59,750 --> 00:53:58,720
could be anybody man you could be

1298
00:54:01,589 --> 00:53:59,760
anybody

1299
00:54:03,109 --> 00:54:01,599
and i finally said you know you have to

1300
00:54:05,190 --> 00:54:03,119
either tell me your name or come forward

1301
00:54:07,190 --> 00:54:05,200
or whatever you gotta do something

1302
00:54:09,030 --> 00:54:07,200
and he just laid out like a list this is

1303
00:54:11,270 --> 00:54:09,040
like two years ago a list

1304
00:54:12,230 --> 00:54:11,280
of things that were coming like in the

1305
00:54:15,589 --> 00:54:12,240
media

1306
00:54:17,829 --> 00:54:15,599
in the world and man i mean it just

1307
00:54:19,349 --> 00:54:17,839
it was just he was accurate about

1308
00:54:22,549 --> 00:54:19,359
everything to a scary

1309
00:54:24,470 --> 00:54:22,559
uncanny degree so i i literally got to

1310
00:54:26,470 --> 00:54:24,480
the point where i was like listen

1311
00:54:28,549 --> 00:54:26,480
either this guy is like the world's

1312
00:54:30,309 --> 00:54:28,559
greatest you know guesser it should be

1313
00:54:33,349 --> 00:54:30,319
going to vegas right now

1314
00:54:34,470 --> 00:54:33,359
you know or he knows somebody who knows

1315
00:54:36,309 --> 00:54:34,480
something

1316
00:54:38,470 --> 00:54:36,319
because he's calling things out he was

1317
00:54:40,150 --> 00:54:38,480
saying look in three weeks the networks

1318
00:54:42,390 --> 00:54:40,160
are going to start talking about

1319
00:54:43,910 --> 00:54:42,400
this this and this then the navy is

1320
00:54:46,230 --> 00:54:43,920
going to release the story about

1321
00:54:48,069 --> 00:54:46,240
you know these videos tom like tom

1322
00:54:49,190 --> 00:54:48,079
delong's video that whole group he had

1323
00:54:52,710 --> 00:54:49,200
all kinds of

1324
00:54:54,470 --> 00:54:52,720
and it just

1325
00:54:55,829 --> 00:54:54,480
everything he was saying started cut you

1326
00:54:58,710 --> 00:54:55,839
know piecing together

1327
00:55:01,510 --> 00:54:58,720
so craig and i got to a point where i

1328
00:55:03,910 --> 00:55:01,520
was like you know what listen

1329
00:55:05,190 --> 00:55:03,920
the tattoo face man who gave me this

1330
00:55:07,030 --> 00:55:05,200
package

1331
00:55:08,789 --> 00:55:07,040
we need to find out and start crossing

1332
00:55:11,990 --> 00:55:08,799
things off the list you know what i mean

1333
00:55:14,069 --> 00:55:12,000
and find out who is this who is

1334
00:55:15,990 --> 00:55:14,079
messing with your stuff who is following

1335
00:55:17,430 --> 00:55:16,000
us because if it's just the government

1336
00:55:19,910 --> 00:55:17,440
like the formal government

1337
00:55:21,829 --> 00:55:19,920
knock on my door and tell me it's not

1338
00:55:25,030 --> 00:55:21,839
none of my business and i'm done

1339
00:55:28,150 --> 00:55:25,040
it's fine so but but i don't think it is

1340
00:55:32,309 --> 00:55:28,160
you know i think there is a third party

1341
00:55:35,109 --> 00:55:32,319
and when where two-face leaves off

1342
00:55:36,470 --> 00:55:35,119
my plan was just to go back to australia

1343
00:55:37,829 --> 00:55:36,480
and try to finish this thing up

1344
00:55:39,510 --> 00:55:37,839
determine who was doing this and

1345
00:55:41,670 --> 00:55:39,520
determine what the plan is

1346
00:55:42,549 --> 00:55:41,680
because a plan did start to kind of

1347
00:55:44,470 --> 00:55:42,559
unfold

1348
00:55:46,069 --> 00:55:44,480
and it had a lot to do with this this

1349
00:55:47,589 --> 00:55:46,079
fake alien invasion thing which when i

1350
00:55:48,150 --> 00:55:47,599
first heard about this i had no idea

1351
00:55:50,950 --> 00:55:48,160
this was a

1352
00:55:51,430 --> 00:55:50,960
thing right in the ufo community about

1353
00:55:55,990 --> 00:55:51,440
the

1354
00:55:57,990 --> 00:55:56,000
government would like to unroll in order

1355
00:56:01,270 --> 00:55:58,000
to bring together like a one world

1356
00:56:03,109 --> 00:56:01,280
a new world order right again a lot of

1357
00:56:04,309 --> 00:56:03,119
these concepts when i talk to ufo guys

1358
00:56:05,430 --> 00:56:04,319
they're just like you they just nod

1359
00:56:07,510 --> 00:56:05,440
their head when yeah right

1360
00:56:09,750 --> 00:56:07,520
yeah this is this is this we talk about

1361
00:56:11,589 --> 00:56:09,760
these on every day

1362
00:56:12,870 --> 00:56:11,599
i'm looking at people going all right

1363
00:56:15,030 --> 00:56:12,880
what's like this

1364
00:56:16,230 --> 00:56:15,040
what are you talking about yeah right

1365
00:56:19,349 --> 00:56:16,240
you know

1366
00:56:20,549 --> 00:56:19,359
but one by one these strange things just

1367
00:56:21,750 --> 00:56:20,559
start connecting

1368
00:56:23,990 --> 00:56:21,760
and the more and more you connect the

1369
00:56:25,430 --> 00:56:24,000
dots i started to realize this is the

1370
00:56:26,549 --> 00:56:25,440
type of rabbit hole you can follow and

1371
00:56:29,030 --> 00:56:26,559
lose your life man

1372
00:56:29,990 --> 00:56:29,040
i mean you just don't so i was like i

1373
00:56:32,950 --> 00:56:30,000
just got to know who

1374
00:56:35,030 --> 00:56:32,960
this is who's doing this who's behind us

1375
00:56:38,069 --> 00:56:35,040
and if this stuff is something

1376
00:56:41,829 --> 00:56:38,079
you know that's real well after

1377
00:56:43,670 --> 00:56:41,839
two-face ended there was just

1378
00:56:45,670 --> 00:56:43,680
everything went to the next level once

1379
00:56:46,950 --> 00:56:45,680
two phases came out once i did the show

1380
00:56:49,510 --> 00:56:46,960
with you last time

1381
00:56:50,150 --> 00:56:49,520
yep after that everything went to the

1382
00:56:53,430 --> 00:56:50,160
next

1383
00:56:54,789 --> 00:56:53,440
level um there's so much stuff i don't

1384
00:56:56,230 --> 00:56:54,799
want to give away because it's in

1385
00:56:58,069 --> 00:56:56,240
phantom rider but i mean

1386
00:57:00,150 --> 00:56:58,079
i mean this stuff this stuff started

1387
00:57:01,750 --> 00:57:00,160
coming to my home in a big way

1388
00:57:03,109 --> 00:57:01,760
uh where things were happening inside my

1389
00:57:03,750 --> 00:57:03,119
home that were dragging me out things

1390
00:57:05,349 --> 00:57:03,760
were going on

1391
00:57:07,190 --> 00:57:05,359
outside my place things were going off

1392
00:57:10,549 --> 00:57:07,200
my car i mean there was

1393
00:57:14,069 --> 00:57:10,559
massive stuff that was going on and then

1394
00:57:15,990 --> 00:57:14,079
you know i i get a call from craig

1395
00:57:17,750 --> 00:57:16,000
and i talk to him his family and the son

1396
00:57:21,510 --> 00:57:17,760
and something major

1397
00:57:25,109 --> 00:57:21,520
happened to him that i was truly scared

1398
00:57:27,349 --> 00:57:25,119
i was just like what are we doing like

1399
00:57:29,750 --> 00:57:27,359
obviously we're knocking on doors that

1400
00:57:32,069 --> 00:57:29,760
that real stuff is happening

1401
00:57:33,349 --> 00:57:32,079
not hollywood stuff real stuff is

1402
00:57:35,589 --> 00:57:33,359
happening

1403
00:57:36,870 --> 00:57:35,599
that we're in danger and we need to

1404
00:57:40,150 --> 00:57:36,880
really

1405
00:57:42,390 --> 00:57:40,160
decide how you know you can only

1406
00:57:43,750 --> 00:57:42,400
understand the fire so long right before

1407
00:57:45,990 --> 00:57:43,760
you start getting blisters

1408
00:57:46,950 --> 00:57:46,000
yeah that's right that's right and you

1409
00:57:49,589 --> 00:57:46,960
can only

1410
00:57:51,430 --> 00:57:49,599
that it's it's one thing to have your

1411
00:57:53,030 --> 00:57:51,440
personal interest here and it's great

1412
00:57:54,549 --> 00:57:53,040
you can make your next documentary and

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you're collecting information

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00:57:59,270 --> 00:57:57,599
right it's a whole other thing when

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your friends and family and people

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around you are

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are getting affected by this and

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where's the worth right you know you can

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be a martyr

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chad you can take one you can take one

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for the team but it's another thing

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when other people too have to go down

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00:58:18,069 --> 00:58:16,240
with you and that's not cool

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well that's thing i think everybody has

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a moment where you got to stop and say

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look man is the juice worth the squeeze

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here like i mean like what

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what am i you know what is going on man

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like is that is the juice worth the

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squeeze here

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00:58:37,990 --> 00:58:36,319
i i've so stolen that all right let's

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take our break chad you stay right there

1433
00:58:41,430 --> 00:58:39,359
this is fade to black

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i am your host jimmy church tonight chad

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caleb is here we're talking about his

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new film it is called phantom rider

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available worldwide starting tomorrow

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links are over at jimmychurchradio.com

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we got lots to talk about tonight you

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welcome back fade to black i am your

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host jimmy church tonight chad caleb is

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here we're talking about his new film

1566
01:04:28,150 --> 01:04:26,319
it's called phantom writer it's

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releasing tomorrow

1568
01:04:33,270 --> 01:04:31,200
and it is part three of his uh series uh

1569
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sir no face and two-faced the grave this

1570
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is part three

1571
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and the journey continues and and chad

1572
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where can everybody

1573
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watch the film tomorrow uh you can get

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it on itunes

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uh you know it's on uh voodoo

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amazon prime google play um it's

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pretty much every comcast cable or

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verizon it's on that

1579
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xbox playstation pretty much anywhere

1580
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there's video on demand

1581
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um go there and it'll be there but

1582
01:05:04,950 --> 01:05:02,880
itunes seems to be the easiest um

1583
01:05:06,870 --> 01:05:04,960
most people have an itunes account um

1584
01:05:09,910 --> 01:05:06,880
but yeah yeah there you go

1585
01:05:12,789 --> 01:05:09,920
and my my first question uh

1586
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about all of this uh which kind of goes

1587
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back to where you and i were two and

1588
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three years ago when

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all of this started to unfold um how is

1590
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your ufo knowledge today

1591
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you know what i mean you've been thrust

1592
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into this now yeah

1593
01:05:27,589 --> 01:05:27,119
you know i i i've through doing this

1594
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i've

1595
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you know met people you know like you

1596
01:05:32,789 --> 01:05:31,119
and uh

1597
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that do have a vast knowledge of this

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and i feel like i i could hang

1599
01:05:38,710 --> 01:05:37,039
you know what i mean i'm not again i

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haven't spent 20 years of my life on it

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you know

1602
01:05:45,589 --> 01:05:42,799
um but i am fascinated by the entire

1603
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you know ufo field and where the

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thoughts and ideas are going

1605
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um and there's a lot of evidence of

1606
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really bizarre stuff i mean

1607
01:05:55,190 --> 01:05:53,119
one of the things that daniel david

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skype did is he laid out this whole kind

1609
01:05:59,510 --> 01:05:57,359
of history for me to follow

1610
01:06:01,109 --> 01:05:59,520
um where this all started all the way up

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01:06:03,910 --> 01:06:01,119
to what we were doing

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01:06:05,109 --> 01:06:03,920
and you know essentially i also want to

1613
01:06:07,190 --> 01:06:05,119
point this out too at the end of

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01:06:08,390 --> 01:06:07,200
two-faced degree we did discover a lot

1615
01:06:10,710 --> 01:06:08,400
of reasons

1616
01:06:13,510 --> 01:06:10,720
to think that that was in fact a gray

1617
01:06:15,349 --> 01:06:13,520
and that the australian government

1618
01:06:16,789 --> 01:06:15,359
pretty much misled craig which actually

1619
01:06:18,230 --> 01:06:16,799
made a lot more sense than them just

1620
01:06:19,750 --> 01:06:18,240
calling him out of the blue

1621
01:06:21,430 --> 01:06:19,760
offering him a ton of money to go be a

1622
01:06:23,270 --> 01:06:21,440
ghost hunter for two years it didn't

1623
01:06:26,470 --> 01:06:23,280
make any sense what they initially

1624
01:06:29,349 --> 01:06:26,480
offered him but it made sense

1625
01:06:30,829 --> 01:06:29,359
if you stepped back and said while craig

1626
01:06:32,789 --> 01:06:30,839
thinks he's

1627
01:06:33,750 --> 01:06:32,799
documenting you know some kind of

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01:06:36,549 --> 01:06:33,760
paranormal

1629
01:06:37,349 --> 01:06:36,559
activity they're actually documenting

1630
01:06:40,230 --> 01:06:37,359
him

1631
01:06:41,270 --> 01:06:40,240
and his interaction with this thing and

1632
01:06:43,589 --> 01:06:41,280
what it is

1633
01:06:44,630 --> 01:06:43,599
um because where skyfall went is he

1634
01:06:47,750 --> 01:06:44,640
basically said that there

1635
01:06:48,309 --> 01:06:47,760
is uh this fake healing invasion is

1636
01:06:49,670 --> 01:06:48,319
coming

1637
01:06:52,710 --> 01:06:49,680
and they're gonna need more than lights

1638
01:06:54,630 --> 01:06:52,720
in the sky and project bluebeam

1639
01:06:56,390 --> 01:06:54,640
to create these images in the sky

1640
01:06:57,510 --> 01:06:56,400
they're gonna need physical creatures

1641
01:06:58,549 --> 01:06:57,520
they're gonna need something that you

1642
01:07:01,829 --> 01:06:58,559
could see

1643
01:07:03,990 --> 01:07:01,839
and then uh stephen greer

1644
01:07:05,349 --> 01:07:04,000
you know was on stage talking about in

1645
01:07:08,390 --> 01:07:05,359
australia

1646
01:07:08,710 --> 01:07:08,400
um they're supposedly making these you

1647
01:07:12,069 --> 01:07:08,720
know

1648
01:07:14,390 --> 01:07:12,079
bio robots alien drone greys

1649
01:07:15,829 --> 01:07:14,400
that are there and craig is going is

1650
01:07:17,589 --> 01:07:15,839
that what we were looking at

1651
01:07:20,470 --> 01:07:17,599
is that what we were there with the

1652
01:07:21,190 --> 01:07:20,480
whole time and as crazy as this stuff

1653
01:07:23,270 --> 01:07:21,200
sounds

1654
01:07:24,470 --> 01:07:23,280
you still go back and you go listen

1655
01:07:26,710 --> 01:07:24,480
right sounds crazy

1656
01:07:27,589 --> 01:07:26,720
here's what's not crazy he caught

1657
01:07:30,789 --> 01:07:27,599
something on film

1658
01:07:32,150 --> 01:07:30,799
for real that's not human okay he he

1659
01:07:34,630 --> 01:07:32,160
definitely did

1660
01:07:35,190 --> 01:07:34,640
and i don't know what that thing is you

1661
01:07:38,150 --> 01:07:35,200
know

1662
01:07:39,029 --> 01:07:38,160
um but through this process yeah you

1663
01:07:41,270 --> 01:07:39,039
know i've

1664
01:07:42,309 --> 01:07:41,280
you know i'm like anybody else you know

1665
01:07:45,430 --> 01:07:42,319
i guess who's

1666
01:07:47,270 --> 01:07:45,440
uh has a driven personality when i fall

1667
01:07:48,710 --> 01:07:47,280
into something once i'm into it i

1668
01:07:50,630 --> 01:07:48,720
it's just give it all to me you know

1669
01:07:52,950 --> 01:07:50,640
what i mean i've watched so many

1670
01:07:56,870 --> 01:07:52,960
documentaries on ufos and

1671
01:07:58,870 --> 01:07:56,880
have read so much about i like i knew

1672
01:08:00,390 --> 01:07:58,880
the rendel shim forest incident i knew

1673
01:08:01,670 --> 01:08:00,400
all that stuff that you were that you

1674
01:08:04,870 --> 01:08:01,680
mentioned earlier

1675
01:08:06,789 --> 01:08:04,880
um but yeah it's a different field than

1676
01:08:09,190 --> 01:08:06,799
the paranormal field for sure

1677
01:08:10,390 --> 01:08:09,200
uh the ufo field seems to be more

1678
01:08:13,430 --> 01:08:10,400
aggressive

1679
01:08:16,070 --> 01:08:13,440
like people are very very

1680
01:08:16,470 --> 01:08:16,080
uh intense about their opinions you know

1681
01:08:19,829 --> 01:08:16,480
yeah

1682
01:08:24,229 --> 01:08:19,839
well and and what is interesting is

1683
01:08:25,590 --> 01:08:24,239
that uh three years ago uh when uh you

1684
01:08:26,550 --> 01:08:25,600
and i first started talking about the

1685
01:08:29,990 --> 01:08:26,560
first film and

1686
01:08:33,110 --> 01:08:30,000
and everything else what has transpired

1687
01:08:36,470 --> 01:08:33,120
since then in the world of ufology

1688
01:08:37,189 --> 01:08:36,480
and how everything did start to spill

1689
01:08:40,309 --> 01:08:37,199
out there

1690
01:08:41,110 --> 01:08:40,319
and meanwhile you're you're the new guy

1691
01:08:43,910 --> 01:08:41,120
on the scene

1692
01:08:45,829 --> 01:08:43,920
you're being fed this information but

1693
01:08:48,309 --> 01:08:45,839
then you start to watch it happen

1694
01:08:49,669 --> 01:08:48,319
on fox and tucker carlson in the new

1695
01:08:53,430 --> 01:08:49,679
york times

1696
01:08:55,990 --> 01:08:53,440
as it was being laid out to you

1697
01:08:57,430 --> 01:08:56,000
when you didn't know actually that any

1698
01:08:59,110 --> 01:08:57,440
of this was possible

1699
01:09:00,550 --> 01:08:59,120
but then it did happen how did that make

1700
01:09:02,789 --> 01:09:00,560
you feel uh

1701
01:09:04,309 --> 01:09:02,799
it's really uncomfortable especially

1702
01:09:07,349 --> 01:09:04,319
when before

1703
01:09:08,630 --> 01:09:07,359
um out of college i i was a journalist i

1704
01:09:10,149 --> 01:09:08,640
worked for the des moines register the

1705
01:09:12,390 --> 01:09:10,159
iowa state daily

1706
01:09:13,510 --> 01:09:12,400
um and like the reason that you know was

1707
01:09:16,870 --> 01:09:13,520
important is

1708
01:09:18,709 --> 01:09:16,880
when you see all of a sudden five pilots

1709
01:09:21,349 --> 01:09:18,719
talking to the new york times

1710
01:09:22,550 --> 01:09:21,359
david fravor on every channel and you

1711
01:09:24,630 --> 01:09:22,560
know and this other guy

1712
01:09:26,309 --> 01:09:24,640
you start realizing that look these are

1713
01:09:26,950 --> 01:09:26,319
members of the military like they don't

1714
01:09:31,829 --> 01:09:26,960
just

1715
01:09:34,309 --> 01:09:31,839
up in the new york times

1716
01:09:35,269 --> 01:09:34,319
okay they have to have clearance like

1717
01:09:37,430 --> 01:09:35,279
the pentagon

1718
01:09:38,630 --> 01:09:37,440
has to decide who's going to talk what

1719
01:09:39,189 --> 01:09:38,640
is the message that you're getting

1720
01:09:40,630 --> 01:09:39,199
across

1721
01:09:42,309 --> 01:09:40,640
what are you going to say what are you

1722
01:09:43,990 --> 01:09:42,319
not and you start realizing wait a

1723
01:09:45,349 --> 01:09:44,000
minute there are meetings going on in

1724
01:09:48,309 --> 01:09:45,359
the pentagon here

1725
01:09:49,749 --> 01:09:48,319
about ufos and rolling out this story

1726
01:09:50,390 --> 01:09:49,759
and all these things are happening and

1727
01:09:53,910 --> 01:09:50,400
then

1728
01:09:56,390 --> 01:09:53,920
things for me that

1729
01:09:58,630 --> 01:09:56,400
as someone who just fell into this field

1730
01:10:00,550 --> 01:09:58,640
i looked at tom delong's scenario

1731
01:10:01,750 --> 01:10:00,560
and i'm going wait a minute so all of

1732
01:10:05,189 --> 01:10:01,760
these

1733
01:10:05,750 --> 01:10:05,199
military guys just suddenly needed tom

1734
01:10:08,310 --> 01:10:05,760
delong

1735
01:10:10,630 --> 01:10:08,320
to make this all happen you know it was

1736
01:10:13,669 --> 01:10:10,640
very obvious to me what this was

1737
01:10:15,590 --> 01:10:13,679
it's like you know i i don't mean this

1738
01:10:17,669 --> 01:10:15,600
directly to him but it's the old saying

1739
01:10:18,790 --> 01:10:17,679
like like oh that's the useful idiot you

1740
01:10:20,149 --> 01:10:18,800
know what i mean it's like

1741
01:10:22,790 --> 01:10:20,159
get the guy that could deliver the

1742
01:10:24,149 --> 01:10:22,800
message to america because if tom delong

1743
01:10:25,270 --> 01:10:24,159
tells you we're gonna build a spaceship

1744
01:10:27,110 --> 01:10:25,280
and there's aliens here

1745
01:10:29,189 --> 01:10:27,120
that's not that scary it's kind of funny

1746
01:10:31,270 --> 01:10:29,199
if mad dog mattis tells you that

1747
01:10:33,110 --> 01:10:31,280
that's scary yeah that's a totally

1748
01:10:35,830 --> 01:10:33,120
different situation

1749
01:10:37,430 --> 01:10:35,840
right did you well let me ask you did

1750
01:10:40,550 --> 01:10:37,440
you start to develop

1751
01:10:44,630 --> 01:10:40,560
this this theory uh

1752
01:10:46,149 --> 01:10:44,640
behind delong and ttsa because

1753
01:10:47,350 --> 01:10:46,159
you didn't know the background you

1754
01:10:48,149 --> 01:10:47,360
didn't know the players that were

1755
01:10:51,590 --> 01:10:48,159
involved

1756
01:10:53,510 --> 01:10:51,600
this was just how you were viewing it

1757
01:10:55,750 --> 01:10:53,520
it's initially how i viewed it and then

1758
01:10:56,790 --> 01:10:55,760
i asked skyfall about it and skyfall

1759
01:10:58,950 --> 01:10:56,800
just said to me

1760
01:11:00,390 --> 01:10:58,960
nothing about that is what it appears

1761
01:11:01,350 --> 01:11:00,400
you know it's kind of like you're right

1762
01:11:04,070 --> 01:11:01,360
you know what i mean like

1763
01:11:05,350 --> 01:11:04,080
it's so odd but at the same time it's so

1764
01:11:08,229 --> 01:11:05,360
blatantly

1765
01:11:09,510 --> 01:11:08,239
pieced together i mean it's just these

1766
01:11:11,030 --> 01:11:09,520
guys

1767
01:11:12,870 --> 01:11:11,040
the thing was i knew a lot about tom

1768
01:11:15,350 --> 01:11:12,880
delong i'm a fan

1769
01:11:16,470 --> 01:11:15,360
i'm sure long time musician so when i

1770
01:11:18,310 --> 01:11:16,480
first heard

1771
01:11:20,070 --> 01:11:18,320
uh i i had no problem believing that

1772
01:11:21,270 --> 01:11:20,080
that and i knew he had a very strong

1773
01:11:24,790 --> 01:11:21,280
interest in this

1774
01:11:27,350 --> 01:11:24,800
but the thing is it's it's all of those

1775
01:11:28,950 --> 01:11:27,360
military guys my father was in the air

1776
01:11:31,510 --> 01:11:28,960
force like i know

1777
01:11:33,430 --> 01:11:31,520
and the military reputation is

1778
01:11:36,709 --> 01:11:33,440
everything it's how careers are

1779
01:11:38,630 --> 01:11:36,719
made is reputation so for all of those

1780
01:11:41,430 --> 01:11:38,640
guys to suddenly

1781
01:11:43,510 --> 01:11:41,440
all of a sudden get around him and put

1782
01:11:46,870 --> 01:11:43,520
him as the head of this thing

1783
01:11:47,350 --> 01:11:46,880
they didn't decide to they were ordered

1784
01:11:51,590 --> 01:11:47,360
to

1785
01:11:54,550 --> 01:11:51,600
like it's like of intelligence

1786
01:11:55,270 --> 01:11:54,560
you don't ever really retire okay like

1787
01:11:57,910 --> 01:11:55,280
you know

1788
01:11:59,189 --> 01:11:57,920
everything that's going on so it to me

1789
01:12:02,390 --> 01:11:59,199
appeared like they were all

1790
01:12:06,310 --> 01:12:02,400
ordered to to to find the voice

1791
01:12:08,630 --> 01:12:06,320
and you've seen this a lot lately um

1792
01:12:09,990 --> 01:12:08,640
there's a a lot of talk and i i believe

1793
01:12:12,310 --> 01:12:10,000
there's something to this

1794
01:12:13,430 --> 01:12:12,320
look the new tom the new uh top gun

1795
01:12:15,110 --> 01:12:13,440
that's coming out

1796
01:12:16,470 --> 01:12:15,120
they've already showed little splits and

1797
01:12:18,870 --> 01:12:16,480
scenes at the end

1798
01:12:20,870 --> 01:12:18,880
where maverick is in the aurora and he's

1799
01:12:22,310 --> 01:12:20,880
testing out space force gear

1800
01:12:24,310 --> 01:12:22,320
at the end of it then they just

1801
01:12:25,189 --> 01:12:24,320
announced they just announced tom cruise

1802
01:12:27,830 --> 01:12:25,199
is going

1803
01:12:30,070 --> 01:12:27,840
to the space station to film a movie

1804
01:12:32,790 --> 01:12:30,080
elon's working with him to get him up

1805
01:12:33,750 --> 01:12:32,800
okay you got an actor that's leading the

1806
01:12:36,709 --> 01:12:33,760
way

1807
01:12:38,470 --> 01:12:36,719
with uh you know i'm sorry a musician

1808
01:12:42,070 --> 01:12:38,480
entertainer and tom de long

1809
01:12:43,110 --> 01:12:42,080
we had a a performer tv personality and

1810
01:12:44,709 --> 01:12:43,120
donald trump

1811
01:12:46,149 --> 01:12:44,719
that's at the same time this is all

1812
01:12:48,149 --> 01:12:46,159
going on now

1813
01:12:49,590 --> 01:12:48,159
tom cruise his biggest films that are

1814
01:12:49,990 --> 01:12:49,600
coming out are going to be all about the

1815
01:12:53,110 --> 01:12:50,000
space

1816
01:12:54,310 --> 01:12:53,120
force and selling that to us is this all

1817
01:12:56,229 --> 01:12:54,320
a coincidence

1818
01:12:57,750 --> 01:12:56,239
you know this is stuff that i did start

1819
01:12:59,669 --> 01:12:57,760
totally piecing together and when i

1820
01:13:01,270 --> 01:12:59,679
asked skype he was just like you're

1821
01:13:02,950 --> 01:13:01,280
starting to see how this works

1822
01:13:05,430 --> 01:13:02,960
you know the public when they want to

1823
01:13:08,310 --> 01:13:05,440
sell something they choose somebody

1824
01:13:09,030 --> 01:13:08,320
you'll trust obviously now i wanted to

1825
01:13:12,149 --> 01:13:09,040
exactly

1826
01:13:15,669 --> 01:13:12,159
now let me ask you this uh um

1827
01:13:17,430 --> 01:13:15,679
when you first start when you first saw

1828
01:13:19,590 --> 01:13:17,440
the three videos

1829
01:13:20,870 --> 01:13:19,600
uh from the pentagon you know gimbal go

1830
01:13:24,470 --> 01:13:20,880
fast and and

1831
01:13:27,750 --> 01:13:24,480
and uh uh tic tac did

1832
01:13:30,550 --> 01:13:27,760
did they have an et feel to you what

1833
01:13:31,669 --> 01:13:30,560
what were you seeing i thought they were

1834
01:13:35,270 --> 01:13:31,679
intentionally

1835
01:13:36,390 --> 01:13:35,280
vague so if you don't know and you go

1836
01:13:38,149 --> 01:13:36,400
what am i seeing here

1837
01:13:40,229 --> 01:13:38,159
i thought that's what they were we'll

1838
01:13:42,709 --> 01:13:40,239
tell you what you're seeing

1839
01:13:43,830 --> 01:13:42,719
that's interesting right about those

1840
01:13:47,910 --> 01:13:43,840
videos

1841
01:13:49,430 --> 01:13:47,920
that are acutely alien

1842
01:13:52,390 --> 01:13:49,440
there's nothing about those videos that

1843
01:13:55,030 --> 01:13:52,400
are barely even interesting

1844
01:13:55,430 --> 01:13:55,040
they're very very you know what i mean

1845
01:13:57,350 --> 01:13:55,440
like

1846
01:13:58,790 --> 01:13:57,360
i don't see anything on there that's

1847
01:14:01,270 --> 01:13:58,800
like oh my god

1848
01:14:02,709 --> 01:14:01,280
look at that alien technology you know

1849
01:14:05,350 --> 01:14:02,719
we don't see

1850
01:14:06,709 --> 01:14:05,360
a tic tac go from 80 000 feet to a few

1851
01:14:07,750 --> 01:14:06,719
feet above the water in a second we

1852
01:14:09,350 --> 01:14:07,760
don't see that

1853
01:14:10,709 --> 01:14:09,360
we see something kind of go off the side

1854
01:14:12,790 --> 01:14:10,719
of the screen and they go look at the

1855
01:14:14,550 --> 01:14:12,800
speed it's like a bullet

1856
01:14:16,470 --> 01:14:14,560
no not on screen it's not i don't know

1857
01:14:20,070 --> 01:14:16,480
what you're talking about you know

1858
01:14:22,870 --> 01:14:20,080
and so i i i felt like those things were

1859
01:14:24,630 --> 01:14:22,880
i felt like they were they were probably

1860
01:14:27,350 --> 01:14:24,640
something either either

1861
01:14:29,110 --> 01:14:27,360
that they didn't know at one point and

1862
01:14:31,030 --> 01:14:29,120
they figured it out

1863
01:14:33,189 --> 01:14:31,040
or they were just plants it was just

1864
01:14:36,390 --> 01:14:33,199
it's just because i don't understand how

1865
01:14:38,310 --> 01:14:36,400
like when if you or i

1866
01:14:40,950 --> 01:14:38,320
see something and take a great photo of

1867
01:14:44,149 --> 01:14:40,960
it or even give a great report of it

1868
01:14:45,669 --> 01:14:44,159
you know it's really easy to just go oh

1869
01:14:47,669 --> 01:14:45,679
oh well he

1870
01:14:50,550 --> 01:14:47,679
he's not a trained observer he's this

1871
01:14:52,630 --> 01:14:50,560
but these guys in a plane can look at

1872
01:14:54,550 --> 01:14:52,640
um you know grainy video and you don't

1873
01:14:56,630 --> 01:14:54,560
know what it is whatever they say back

1874
01:14:59,750 --> 01:14:56,640
to you we're just supposed to accept

1875
01:15:01,669 --> 01:14:59,760
because hey i was a pilot well that

1876
01:15:04,630 --> 01:15:01,679
that doesn't mean anything to me because

1877
01:15:07,270 --> 01:15:04,640
anybody who has eyes can look at the sky

1878
01:15:08,229 --> 01:15:07,280
and say does that you know look like

1879
01:15:11,350 --> 01:15:08,239
something

1880
01:15:13,350 --> 01:15:11,360
that defies physics or not because they

1881
01:15:15,510 --> 01:15:13,360
keep saying all those videos this defies

1882
01:15:16,390 --> 01:15:15,520
physics what defies physics in those

1883
01:15:18,229 --> 01:15:16,400
videos

1884
01:15:20,310 --> 01:15:18,239
there's nothing that i see that overtly

1885
01:15:22,870 --> 01:15:20,320
says to me they defy physics

1886
01:15:23,350 --> 01:15:22,880
now have i ever you know been behind you

1887
01:15:27,110 --> 01:15:23,360
know

1888
01:15:29,510 --> 01:15:27,120
that stuff no i don't

1889
01:15:31,830 --> 01:15:29,520
but it's hard for me to just to accept

1890
01:15:34,149 --> 01:15:31,840
it at face value because

1891
01:15:34,950 --> 01:15:34,159
fraber was a pilot maybe he was and

1892
01:15:37,030 --> 01:15:34,960
maybe that stuff

1893
01:15:38,229 --> 01:15:37,040
is really interesting but there's other

1894
01:15:39,270 --> 01:15:38,239
things about it that don't make any

1895
01:15:41,189 --> 01:15:39,280
sense like

1896
01:15:42,550 --> 01:15:41,199
in the one video that comes on he says

1897
01:15:44,149 --> 01:15:42,560
look at them there's a whole fleet of

1898
01:15:47,189 --> 01:15:44,159
them

1899
01:15:48,870 --> 01:15:47,199
where right no one thought to film the

1900
01:15:52,390 --> 01:15:48,880
fleet

1901
01:15:54,790 --> 01:15:52,400
like

1902
01:15:56,709 --> 01:15:54,800
you know what i mean so i and once again

1903
01:15:58,950 --> 01:15:56,719
what but but what i did find the most

1904
01:16:00,470 --> 01:15:58,960
interesting about those videos

1905
01:16:02,149 --> 01:16:00,480
and again this is just part of mine i

1906
01:16:03,430 --> 01:16:02,159
always go to the debunking mindset first

1907
01:16:05,590 --> 01:16:03,440
that's just who i am

1908
01:16:06,630 --> 01:16:05,600
but what i did find conspiratorial about

1909
01:16:09,030 --> 01:16:06,640
those videos

1910
01:16:10,550 --> 01:16:09,040
is that they all three came out again

1911
01:16:11,590 --> 01:16:10,560
people were sitting around in the

1912
01:16:14,870 --> 01:16:11,600
pentagon

1913
01:16:15,270 --> 01:16:14,880
deciding to bring these out they decided

1914
01:16:18,470 --> 01:16:15,280
to

1915
01:16:19,750 --> 01:16:18,480
why why is the question and there were

1916
01:16:21,750 --> 01:16:19,760
other weird things they were doing in

1917
01:16:23,830 --> 01:16:21,760
the middle of a pandemic the cia is

1918
01:16:26,550 --> 01:16:23,840
tweet the cia's twitter

1919
01:16:28,709 --> 01:16:26,560
is tweeting out links to ufo cases and

1920
01:16:30,709 --> 01:16:28,719
telling people to study up on them

1921
01:16:32,149 --> 01:16:30,719
and how to report them and all this

1922
01:16:34,149 --> 01:16:32,159
stuff it's like why

1923
01:16:35,430 --> 01:16:34,159
this is what the cia was doing today

1924
01:16:36,950 --> 01:16:35,440
somebody was sitting around saying we

1925
01:16:38,390 --> 01:16:36,960
got to get the public to really focus on

1926
01:16:41,110 --> 01:16:38,400
these ufos

1927
01:16:42,470 --> 01:16:41,120
you know and then trump let it slip that

1928
01:16:46,070 --> 01:16:42,480
there was something

1929
01:16:47,510 --> 01:16:46,080
odd about uh and unique about roswell

1930
01:16:49,990 --> 01:16:47,520
and you know that interviews he's like

1931
01:16:51,270 --> 01:16:50,000
there's something so it's a unique place

1932
01:16:53,189 --> 01:16:51,280
it's an interesting place

1933
01:16:54,709 --> 01:16:53,199
you know now could trump be doing that

1934
01:16:57,990 --> 01:16:54,719
because he loves to

1935
01:17:01,350 --> 01:16:58,000
stir it up sure but there has been an

1936
01:17:02,630 --> 01:17:01,360
ungodly amount of ufo information that

1937
01:17:04,709 --> 01:17:02,640
has came

1938
01:17:06,870 --> 01:17:04,719
directly from our government in the last

1939
01:17:07,750 --> 01:17:06,880
year yeah no question about it and i'll

1940
01:17:10,790 --> 01:17:07,760
tell you the

1941
01:17:14,470 --> 01:17:10,800
here's the irony the slip up

1942
01:17:17,510 --> 01:17:14,480
of the trump comment trump was actually

1943
01:17:20,310 --> 01:17:17,520
talking about area 51

1944
01:17:20,870 --> 01:17:20,320
because that was the area 51 raid and

1945
01:17:22,870 --> 01:17:20,880
everybody

1946
01:17:24,870 --> 01:17:22,880
you know there's 2 million people that's

1947
01:17:28,550 --> 01:17:24,880
what trump was referring to

1948
01:17:31,189 --> 01:17:28,560
but he didn't say area 51. the slip up

1949
01:17:34,229 --> 01:17:31,199
was he said roswell

1950
01:17:35,189 --> 01:17:34,239
yeah right when it was everybody was

1951
01:17:37,990 --> 01:17:35,199
talking about

1952
01:17:39,669 --> 01:17:38,000
uh area 51 and that's the interesting

1953
01:17:42,470 --> 01:17:39,679
place but that's not what he said

1954
01:17:43,110 --> 01:17:42,480
the slip up was roswell and for me i

1955
01:17:47,270 --> 01:17:43,120
enjoyed that

1956
01:17:47,990 --> 01:17:47,280
he also says there are millions of

1957
01:17:50,070 --> 01:17:48,000
people

1958
01:17:51,510 --> 01:17:50,080
that want to see it right he's talking

1959
01:17:57,750 --> 01:17:51,520
about area 51

1960
01:17:59,990 --> 01:17:57,760
the slip up was he knows about roswell

1961
01:18:02,149 --> 01:18:00,000
and that's what he was thinking about

1962
01:18:04,310 --> 01:18:02,159
the subject was area 51.

1963
01:18:06,149 --> 01:18:04,320
i love it you know that was that was the

1964
01:18:06,870 --> 01:18:06,159
irony of that whole thing that was a

1965
01:18:10,070 --> 01:18:06,880
slip up

1966
01:18:12,070 --> 01:18:10,080
a lot of people uh missed actually what

1967
01:18:15,830 --> 01:18:12,080
was going on there

1968
01:18:18,229 --> 01:18:15,840
so so why

1969
01:18:19,830 --> 01:18:18,239
why the publicity you just said that you

1970
01:18:20,950 --> 01:18:19,840
know the question is why we know the

1971
01:18:23,189 --> 01:18:20,960
videos are out

1972
01:18:24,870 --> 01:18:23,199
we know the pilots and the crew members

1973
01:18:28,149 --> 01:18:24,880
of the roosevelt

1974
01:18:31,830 --> 01:18:28,159
and and uh uh the um

1975
01:18:34,229 --> 01:18:31,840
the other uh carrier flight group um

1976
01:18:34,950 --> 01:18:34,239
uh uh are are out there talking about

1977
01:18:38,470 --> 01:18:34,960
this

1978
01:18:40,149 --> 01:18:38,480
but what uh what's the reason why

1979
01:18:41,910 --> 01:18:40,159
so as you looked at this what do you

1980
01:18:43,270 --> 01:18:41,920
think is going on was it because of

1981
01:18:46,950 --> 01:18:43,280
skyfall

1982
01:18:48,229 --> 01:18:46,960
starting to put the pieces together

1983
01:18:51,030 --> 01:18:48,239
yourself

1984
01:18:52,550 --> 01:18:51,040
it was it was both because he really

1985
01:18:54,229 --> 01:18:52,560
opened me up to that world and i was so

1986
01:18:56,790 --> 01:18:54,239
fascinated by how accurate he

1987
01:18:58,470 --> 01:18:56,800
has been with all of his predictions it

1988
01:19:02,070 --> 01:18:58,480
just sent me on a road

1989
01:19:06,070 --> 01:19:02,080
um what i think

1990
01:19:10,149 --> 01:19:07,750
and my opinion is largely formed by the

1991
01:19:12,229 --> 01:19:10,159
fact that we were getting close

1992
01:19:13,910 --> 01:19:12,239
to something and as you guys will see in

1993
01:19:16,550 --> 01:19:13,920
phantom writer

1994
01:19:17,590 --> 01:19:16,560
real things to scare us started

1995
01:19:19,669 --> 01:19:17,600
happening

1996
01:19:21,510 --> 01:19:19,679
and are still going on especially with

1997
01:19:23,830 --> 01:19:21,520
craig um

1998
01:19:26,390 --> 01:19:23,840
but what i think is going on is i think

1999
01:19:28,709 --> 01:19:26,400
we've gotten to a point now

2000
01:19:30,390 --> 01:19:28,719
they can't hide it anymore it's it's

2001
01:19:32,070 --> 01:19:30,400
being filmed everywhere i mean there's

2002
01:19:34,550 --> 01:19:32,080
so much footage

2003
01:19:35,990 --> 01:19:34,560
of bizarre things out there it just

2004
01:19:37,830 --> 01:19:36,000
can't be hit anymore

2005
01:19:40,550 --> 01:19:37,840
i think we're moving into that space

2006
01:19:42,470 --> 01:19:40,560
fairing um

2007
01:19:43,510 --> 01:19:42,480
look we're going to mars again we're

2008
01:19:44,870 --> 01:19:43,520
like all this stuff's going on

2009
01:19:46,630 --> 01:19:44,880
simultaneously

2010
01:19:48,070 --> 01:19:46,640
uh you know the space force obviously

2011
01:19:51,350 --> 01:19:48,080
needs to be something

2012
01:19:53,270 --> 01:19:51,360
i think i do think

2013
01:19:56,950 --> 01:19:53,280
no i don't know if they're here or if

2014
01:20:00,149 --> 01:19:56,960
they're coming but i think anybody with

2015
01:20:01,510 --> 01:20:00,159
a degree of intelligence would probably

2016
01:20:04,390 --> 01:20:01,520
assume we're not alone

2017
01:20:05,510 --> 01:20:04,400
that the universe is far too big um i

2018
01:20:08,550 --> 01:20:05,520
believe

2019
01:20:09,830 --> 01:20:08,560
personally well i don't know look i

2020
01:20:10,950 --> 01:20:09,840
don't know if they're here or not but

2021
01:20:12,470 --> 01:20:10,960
either

2022
01:20:14,950 --> 01:20:12,480
they're here and that announcement's

2023
01:20:19,110 --> 01:20:14,960
going to be made or something's coming

2024
01:20:22,629 --> 01:20:19,120
and they want us to stop being

2025
01:20:25,189 --> 01:20:22,639
americans europeans but earthlings

2026
01:20:26,709 --> 01:20:25,199
the first thing tom delonge did right

2027
01:20:28,950 --> 01:20:26,719
after those videos came out

2028
01:20:30,390 --> 01:20:28,960
de long put out a tweet the first thing

2029
01:20:32,229 --> 01:20:30,400
he did was put out a tweet

2030
01:20:34,310 --> 01:20:32,239
about how much money we can save if we

2031
01:20:36,390 --> 01:20:34,320
became a one world nation

2032
01:20:37,510 --> 01:20:36,400
and we you know combined our militaries

2033
01:20:38,470 --> 01:20:37,520
and think of the trillions of dollars

2034
01:20:40,229 --> 01:20:38,480
that could be spent

2035
01:20:41,669 --> 01:20:40,239
so first thing he did was put out the

2036
01:20:44,070 --> 01:20:41,679
new world order tweet

2037
01:20:45,669 --> 01:20:44,080
now he deleted it too he deleted it

2038
01:20:46,470 --> 01:20:45,679
because people started going nuts on him

2039
01:20:48,149 --> 01:20:46,480
and going

2040
01:20:49,750 --> 01:20:48,159
well if we do that we have to tear the

2041
01:20:52,229 --> 01:20:49,760
constitution up

2042
01:20:53,990 --> 01:20:52,239
and we don't want to do that you know um

2043
01:20:54,709 --> 01:20:54,000
but i do think something is coming down

2044
01:20:55,990 --> 01:20:54,719
the pipe

2045
01:20:57,590 --> 01:20:56,000
i think something's definitely coming

2046
01:20:58,390 --> 01:20:57,600
down the pipe and this is one of those

2047
01:20:59,590 --> 01:20:58,400
kind of

2048
01:21:01,590 --> 01:20:59,600
you know when something bad's going to

2049
01:21:03,910 --> 01:21:01,600
happen the government or or

2050
01:21:05,990 --> 01:21:03,920
large you know corporations they try to

2051
01:21:07,510 --> 01:21:06,000
get out in front of it

2052
01:21:09,189 --> 01:21:07,520
i think that's what's going now i mean

2053
01:21:09,669 --> 01:21:09,199
there's a big let's get out in front of

2054
01:21:11,910 --> 01:21:09,679
it

2055
01:21:13,030 --> 01:21:11,920
and let's control the narrative and

2056
01:21:15,270 --> 01:21:13,040
let's you know

2057
01:21:16,629 --> 01:21:15,280
try to get us to see ourselves as

2058
01:21:19,270 --> 01:21:16,639
earthlings

2059
01:21:21,510 --> 01:21:19,280
you know in this you know space-faring

2060
01:21:25,030 --> 01:21:21,520
world that we're moving into

2061
01:21:26,790 --> 01:21:25,040
versus you know individuals in different

2062
01:21:28,070 --> 01:21:26,800
countries and this is not a new concept

2063
01:21:29,830 --> 01:21:28,080
every leader since the beginning of time

2064
01:21:31,430 --> 01:21:29,840
is one on one world order they've always

2065
01:21:32,229 --> 01:21:31,440
wanted one leader to run the planet that

2066
01:21:34,629 --> 01:21:32,239
has been going on

2067
01:21:36,709 --> 01:21:34,639
forever from genghis khan to alexander

2068
01:21:38,470 --> 01:21:36,719
the great to seize it like you name it

2069
01:21:40,709 --> 01:21:38,480
to putin you know it's all the way to

2070
01:21:43,270 --> 01:21:40,719
the top they've wanted this

2071
01:21:45,030 --> 01:21:43,280
but that's why once i kind of swallowed

2072
01:21:46,709 --> 01:21:45,040
the whole concept of the fake alien

2073
01:21:49,750 --> 01:21:46,719
invasion

2074
01:21:51,830 --> 01:21:49,760
i started thinking exactly um that

2075
01:21:52,950 --> 01:21:51,840
skyfall made a lot of sense in in the

2076
01:21:55,030 --> 01:21:52,960
sense that

2077
01:21:56,550 --> 01:21:55,040
you would want a fake alien invasion to

2078
01:21:58,470 --> 01:21:56,560
set the narrative

2079
01:21:59,990 --> 01:21:58,480
so when a real invasion comes you don't

2080
01:22:01,510 --> 01:22:00,000
know the difference

2081
01:22:03,430 --> 01:22:01,520
you know what i mean if they're they're

2082
01:22:05,430 --> 01:22:03,440
just bad guys to you now

2083
01:22:07,110 --> 01:22:05,440
and our government's always done that

2084
01:22:08,070 --> 01:22:07,120
when we don't know something or if we

2085
01:22:10,709 --> 01:22:08,080
don't want

2086
01:22:12,790 --> 01:22:10,719
you know america or americans to get

2087
01:22:14,149 --> 01:22:12,800
involved we make them bad guys

2088
01:22:15,830 --> 01:22:14,159
you know and i think there's part of

2089
01:22:18,229 --> 01:22:15,840
that that's going on right now

2090
01:22:19,590 --> 01:22:18,239
well when we talk about fake alien

2091
01:22:21,270 --> 01:22:19,600
invasion

2092
01:22:22,950 --> 01:22:21,280
i mean there's a couple of ways to

2093
01:22:25,590 --> 01:22:22,960
approach this one

2094
01:22:27,430 --> 01:22:25,600
like a project bluebeam holograms

2095
01:22:30,229 --> 01:22:27,440
projected in the sky

2096
01:22:31,350 --> 01:22:30,239
but that could only last for so long

2097
01:22:33,350 --> 01:22:31,360
because

2098
01:22:34,950 --> 01:22:33,360
um anybody with a gun that's going to

2099
01:22:36,229 --> 01:22:34,960
start shooting at these things the

2100
01:22:37,030 --> 01:22:36,239
bullets are going to pass straight

2101
01:22:39,669 --> 01:22:37,040
through it

2102
01:22:41,350 --> 01:22:39,679
and it would take uh a nanosecond to

2103
01:22:42,870 --> 01:22:41,360
figure out that these are projections

2104
01:22:44,470 --> 01:22:42,880
going on in the sky

2105
01:22:45,910 --> 01:22:44,480
right you gotta have a ship you gotta

2106
01:22:48,790 --> 01:22:45,920
have actual aliens

2107
01:22:50,229 --> 01:22:48,800
right right right so that would go on to

2108
01:22:53,510 --> 01:22:50,239
phase two

2109
01:22:56,629 --> 01:22:53,520
uh a fake alien invasion with actual

2110
01:22:59,270 --> 01:22:56,639
craft is this

2111
01:22:59,990 --> 01:22:59,280
is this part of the pentagon's message

2112
01:23:02,229 --> 01:23:00,000
right now

2113
01:23:03,590 --> 01:23:02,239
uh dude are they developing craft that

2114
01:23:05,830 --> 01:23:03,600
are physical

2115
01:23:08,070 --> 01:23:05,840
that would be used for a fake alien

2116
01:23:09,430 --> 01:23:08,080
invasion

2117
01:23:11,350 --> 01:23:09,440
yeah you know i would think they would

2118
01:23:11,830 --> 01:23:11,360
have to i would think if you're going to

2119
01:23:15,270 --> 01:23:11,840
go

2120
01:23:18,470 --> 01:23:15,280
far enough to create um

2121
01:23:20,790 --> 01:23:18,480
you know fake drone alien grays

2122
01:23:22,550 --> 01:23:20,800
like bio like of course you have to have

2123
01:23:26,310 --> 01:23:22,560
the the craft too

2124
01:23:29,830 --> 01:23:26,320
i think the something that would uh

2125
01:23:32,310 --> 01:23:29,840
convince a pilot like uh

2126
01:23:34,149 --> 01:23:32,320
dave fravor because now he's seeing a

2127
01:23:37,750 --> 01:23:34,159
physical craft it's being followed

2128
01:23:40,070 --> 01:23:37,760
on radar yeah then you have that

2129
01:23:42,870 --> 01:23:40,080
testimony coming in from pilots because

2130
01:23:44,629 --> 01:23:42,880
they're not seeing a hologram right it's

2131
01:23:47,350 --> 01:23:44,639
being picked up on radar

2132
01:23:49,270 --> 01:23:47,360
so that is part of the narrative you

2133
01:23:50,629 --> 01:23:49,280
know what's so weird too about fraber's

2134
01:23:54,790 --> 01:23:50,639
story

2135
01:23:56,149 --> 01:23:54,800
none of it makes sense like he said

2136
01:23:58,790 --> 01:23:56,159
i'm sure you've probably heard this has

2137
01:24:00,629 --> 01:23:58,800
he been on the show before no

2138
01:24:04,149 --> 01:24:00,639
okay i don't think i don't think dave

2139
01:24:06,790 --> 01:24:04,159
fravor would ever want to uh

2140
01:24:09,189 --> 01:24:06,800
i got a lot of respect for that guy

2141
01:24:12,149 --> 01:24:09,199
going back to the original interviews

2142
01:24:13,030 --> 01:24:12,159
uh that were on you know the pilot's

2143
01:24:15,510 --> 01:24:13,040
website

2144
01:24:16,790 --> 01:24:15,520
you know going back years ago um done by

2145
01:24:19,910 --> 01:24:16,800
paco and

2146
01:24:20,550 --> 01:24:19,920
reading those uh i have i've got great

2147
01:24:22,950 --> 01:24:20,560
respect

2148
01:24:24,070 --> 01:24:22,960
you know for for dave fravor you know

2149
01:24:26,470 --> 01:24:24,080
well anybody who

2150
01:24:28,229 --> 01:24:26,480
who's mike said my dad's in the air

2151
01:24:29,669 --> 01:24:28,239
force or anybody to me i respect anybody

2152
01:24:30,070 --> 01:24:29,679
who serves peers that's right that's

2153
01:24:32,629 --> 01:24:30,080
right

2154
01:24:34,550 --> 01:24:32,639
you know so but i was they're thinking

2155
01:24:37,110 --> 01:24:34,560
about a story that made no sense to me

2156
01:24:39,110 --> 01:24:37,120
he said that for weeks they were

2157
01:24:41,189 --> 01:24:39,120
painting these things on the radar

2158
01:24:42,390 --> 01:24:41,199
and they were out there and they just

2159
01:24:43,830 --> 01:24:42,400
never went and saw him

2160
01:24:45,990 --> 01:24:43,840
and he said we never looked at him like

2161
01:24:49,189 --> 01:24:46,000
they were an enemy

2162
01:24:50,070 --> 01:24:49,199
and i'm like huh what are you talking

2163
01:24:53,110 --> 01:24:50,080
about

2164
01:24:55,910 --> 01:24:53,120
so for weeks you were painting

2165
01:24:56,950 --> 01:24:55,920
all kinds of objects going from 80 000

2166
01:24:58,550 --> 01:24:56,960
feet

2167
01:25:01,350 --> 01:24:58,560
down to you know what an inch above the

2168
01:25:03,350 --> 01:25:01,360
water and sustaining for 12 hours

2169
01:25:05,030 --> 01:25:03,360
and nobody said go out there and see

2170
01:25:06,709 --> 01:25:05,040
what that was and then the other ones

2171
01:25:08,070 --> 01:25:06,719
that were like squares inside of the

2172
01:25:11,430 --> 01:25:08,080
circles that were flying

2173
01:25:13,430 --> 01:25:11,440
past them like nobody like if this is

2174
01:25:14,870 --> 01:25:13,440
all real

2175
01:25:16,070 --> 01:25:14,880
and and i do have a tendency to believe

2176
01:25:17,030 --> 01:25:16,080
these pilots as far as what they're

2177
01:25:20,870 --> 01:25:17,040
seeing

2178
01:25:22,790 --> 01:25:20,880
there's massive gaps in the story and

2179
01:25:24,550 --> 01:25:22,800
if they weren't sending them out to

2180
01:25:25,510 --> 01:25:24,560
fight them or at least to see if they

2181
01:25:28,310 --> 01:25:25,520
were a threat

2182
01:25:29,590 --> 01:25:28,320
that leads me to believe they're ours

2183
01:25:31,430 --> 01:25:29,600
they're ours

2184
01:25:33,030 --> 01:25:31,440
so there is a time in two-faced the gray

2185
01:25:36,790 --> 01:25:33,040
where um

2186
01:25:37,510 --> 01:25:36,800
you know skyfall sends me and he says

2187
01:25:40,390 --> 01:25:37,520
listen

2188
01:25:41,110 --> 01:25:40,400
here's the blueprints to the tic-tac

2189
01:25:42,870 --> 01:25:41,120
this thing

2190
01:25:45,350 --> 01:25:42,880
you know this is the the navy is long

2191
01:25:48,950 --> 01:25:45,360
ago you know this thing was already

2192
01:25:51,110 --> 01:25:48,960
you know uh patented you know and so

2193
01:25:52,470 --> 01:25:51,120
that suddenly all kinds of stuff started

2194
01:25:55,830 --> 01:25:52,480
making sense to me

2195
01:25:59,910 --> 01:25:55,840
that we're constructing our own vehicles

2196
01:26:03,189 --> 01:25:59,920
and tom delong if you remember his live

2197
01:26:04,550 --> 01:26:03,199
event thing that he did that was the

2198
01:26:05,910 --> 01:26:04,560
purpose of the whole thing was to say we

2199
01:26:08,310 --> 01:26:05,920
want to build this

2200
01:26:09,590 --> 01:26:08,320
this ufo that's what we want to do

2201
01:26:11,669 --> 01:26:09,600
anti-gravity

2202
01:26:13,110 --> 01:26:11,679
save money for the public we're going to

2203
01:26:16,310 --> 01:26:13,120
bring this to you

2204
01:26:18,070 --> 01:26:16,320
yes that's what you know so i i think

2205
01:26:19,510 --> 01:26:18,080
you know i think we probably crack that

2206
01:26:22,709 --> 01:26:19,520
code

2207
01:26:23,910 --> 01:26:22,719
and i think that once

2208
01:26:26,709 --> 01:26:23,920
you know if you think about the the

2209
01:26:28,950 --> 01:26:26,719
world kind of has to go together at this

2210
01:26:31,110 --> 01:26:28,960
uh because you can't have you know the

2211
01:26:33,830 --> 01:26:31,120
us telling stories of

2212
01:26:34,470 --> 01:26:33,840
ufos and aliens and invasions and all

2213
01:26:36,229 --> 01:26:34,480
this stuff

2214
01:26:37,750 --> 01:26:36,239
if the rest of the countries aren't

2215
01:26:39,669 --> 01:26:37,760
involved with it because they

2216
01:26:41,430 --> 01:26:39,679
i mean can you imagine putin going along

2217
01:26:42,709 --> 01:26:41,440
with that if he wasn't involved it

2218
01:26:44,550 --> 01:26:42,719
you know we're going there's there's

2219
01:26:46,149 --> 01:26:44,560
ufos up there there's fake this i mean

2220
01:26:48,070 --> 01:26:46,159
they'd be laughing at us if that

2221
01:26:49,430 --> 01:26:48,080
you know so it has to be a global

2222
01:26:51,590 --> 01:26:49,440
movement um

2223
01:26:53,510 --> 01:26:51,600
that's the thing on the scale of this it

2224
01:26:56,709 --> 01:26:53,520
becomes so large that it

2225
01:27:00,070 --> 01:26:56,719
it almost seems so impossible

2226
01:27:01,669 --> 01:27:00,080
but you know 2020 has been a crazy year

2227
01:27:03,110 --> 01:27:01,679
when it comes to conspiracy theories in

2228
01:27:04,870 --> 01:27:03,120
general

2229
01:27:07,350 --> 01:27:04,880
because i remember a decade ago hearing

2230
01:27:09,510 --> 01:27:07,360
about crazy epstein and his

2231
01:27:11,350 --> 01:27:09,520
planes and clinton being on the plane

2232
01:27:13,510 --> 01:27:11,360
and going this is insane then you find

2233
01:27:15,189 --> 01:27:13,520
out oh yeah no it's all real at all

2234
01:27:16,709 --> 01:27:15,199
it's all been happening you know and

2235
01:27:18,790 --> 01:27:16,719
it's the same thing like when you

2236
01:27:20,709 --> 01:27:18,800
first heard that hitler didn't die and

2237
01:27:22,790 --> 01:27:20,719
he went down to south america and

2238
01:27:24,709 --> 01:27:22,800
you're like this is crazy and then like

2239
01:27:26,149 --> 01:27:24,719
you know the files come out the gfk

2240
01:27:27,990 --> 01:27:26,159
files and you find out no they were

2241
01:27:30,950 --> 01:27:28,000
hunting him for years down there

2242
01:27:32,310 --> 01:27:30,960
and he escaped on a submarine it's like

2243
01:27:33,350 --> 01:27:32,320
when am i going to hear a conspiracy

2244
01:27:36,629 --> 01:27:33,360
that in the end

2245
01:27:39,990 --> 01:27:36,639
isn't proven true right right

2246
01:27:41,990 --> 01:27:40,000
it's like they're all true you know so

2247
01:27:43,030 --> 01:27:42,000
you know i i don't know that that i can

2248
01:27:45,189 --> 01:27:43,040
know for sure

2249
01:27:47,510 --> 01:27:45,199
you know what's coming i know that craig

2250
01:27:50,470 --> 01:27:47,520
and i touch the nerve as something

2251
01:27:51,750 --> 01:27:50,480
that people definitely want us out of

2252
01:27:54,550 --> 01:27:51,760
for sure

2253
01:27:55,990 --> 01:27:54,560
and what phantom rider really takes the

2254
01:27:58,470 --> 01:27:56,000
audience close to what

2255
01:28:00,310 --> 01:27:58,480
that is that we've been going through

2256
01:28:02,149 --> 01:28:00,320
and you kind of get to see a place and

2257
01:28:04,870 --> 01:28:02,159
time of where we're at

2258
01:28:05,510 --> 01:28:04,880
and you know it is really scary man

2259
01:28:07,510 --> 01:28:05,520
because

2260
01:28:08,950 --> 01:28:07,520
like with all my films man i don't fake

2261
01:28:12,709 --> 01:28:08,960
anything period

2262
01:28:14,149 --> 01:28:12,719
nothing and you know when you watch this

2263
01:28:16,790 --> 01:28:14,159
film guys just imagine

2264
01:28:18,390 --> 01:28:16,800
waking up to this type of stuff going on

2265
01:28:21,110 --> 01:28:18,400
around you i mean

2266
01:28:23,110 --> 01:28:21,120
there was definitely a controlled effort

2267
01:28:25,030 --> 01:28:23,120
to get us away and i think

2268
01:28:27,430 --> 01:28:25,040
that's because they want to tell the

2269
01:28:29,510 --> 01:28:27,440
narrative it's for the same reason

2270
01:28:31,110 --> 01:28:29,520
of when you release those videos you say

2271
01:28:34,950 --> 01:28:31,120
what you think of those three vfo videos

2272
01:28:37,110 --> 01:28:34,960
i think they're so grainy and so un

2273
01:28:38,310 --> 01:28:37,120
you know eventful that i have to ask

2274
01:28:40,149 --> 01:28:38,320
what am i seeing

2275
01:28:41,510 --> 01:28:40,159
and i think that's intentional so they

2276
01:28:43,510 --> 01:28:41,520
can tell you the narrative

2277
01:28:45,189 --> 01:28:43,520
now let me ask you this i gotta head to

2278
01:28:48,790 --> 01:28:45,199
a break here in 45 seconds

2279
01:28:51,110 --> 01:28:48,800
daniel david skyfall is uh probably

2280
01:28:55,510 --> 01:28:51,120
listening to this broadcast right now

2281
01:28:58,709 --> 01:28:55,520
yes would you uh would you be okay with

2282
01:29:00,390 --> 01:28:58,719
him coming on fade to black 100 i've

2283
01:29:01,189 --> 01:29:00,400
urged him since the beginning to come

2284
01:29:03,510 --> 01:29:01,199
forward

2285
01:29:04,950 --> 01:29:03,520
he has a family he's afraid of his

2286
01:29:06,870 --> 01:29:04,960
family being in trouble

2287
01:29:08,870 --> 01:29:06,880
we've been back and forth many times

2288
01:29:11,189 --> 01:29:08,880
daniel if you're listening

2289
01:29:12,310 --> 01:29:11,199
you know how i feel man give jimmy a

2290
01:29:14,550 --> 01:29:12,320
call yeah this is

2291
01:29:15,350 --> 01:29:14,560
this is the spot this is the spot i

2292
01:29:19,270 --> 01:29:15,360
would

2293
01:29:20,870 --> 01:29:19,280
an opportunity to

2294
01:29:22,629 --> 01:29:20,880
engage and have a conversation with him

2295
01:29:24,310 --> 01:29:22,639
for this audience you know they've heard

2296
01:29:26,950 --> 01:29:24,320
so much and they've seen the films

2297
01:29:27,430 --> 01:29:26,960
right yes but uh taking this to the next

2298
01:29:29,110 --> 01:29:27,440
level

2299
01:29:31,110 --> 01:29:29,120
uh would be really cool we got to take a

2300
01:29:34,149 --> 01:29:31,120
break right here this is fade to black

2301
01:29:36,790 --> 01:29:34,159
i am your host jimmy church what an

2302
01:29:39,350 --> 01:29:36,800
incredible show tonight

2303
01:29:41,189 --> 01:29:39,360
chad kaley the new film phantom writer

2304
01:29:42,550 --> 01:29:41,199
more about the film when we come back

2305
01:30:01,750 --> 01:29:42,560
after this short break

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way out here we listen to jimmy church

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2353
01:32:14,950 --> 01:32:13,910
hi i'm reese evans you're listening to

2354
01:32:18,149 --> 01:32:14,960
jimmy church

2355
01:32:19,430 --> 01:32:18,159
this is revolution the revolution will

2356
01:32:24,830 --> 01:32:19,440
not be televised

2357
01:32:24,840 --> 01:33:05,669
ciao

2358
01:33:08,709 --> 01:33:07,510
all right welcome back fade to black i

2359
01:33:10,629 --> 01:33:08,719
am your host jimmy church i guess

2360
01:33:13,030 --> 01:33:10,639
tonight chad kalec i want to remind

2361
01:33:15,990 --> 01:33:13,040
everybody what is going on this week

2362
01:33:17,110 --> 01:33:16,000
uh tomorrow night steve laplane is here

2363
01:33:19,270 --> 01:33:17,120
talking about his

2364
01:33:20,310 --> 01:33:19,280
new book about the second incident at

2365
01:33:21,910 --> 01:33:20,320
rendell shim

2366
01:33:24,149 --> 01:33:21,920
that's tomorrow night and then wednesday

2367
01:33:26,790 --> 01:33:24,159
night uh scott walters going to be here

2368
01:33:27,350 --> 01:33:26,800
talking about the secret life of albert

2369
01:33:28,870 --> 01:33:27,360
pike

2370
01:33:30,550 --> 01:33:28,880
tonight we're talking about chad's new

2371
01:33:33,590 --> 01:33:30,560
film it is called phantom rider

2372
01:33:34,470 --> 01:33:33,600
a full release uh tomorrow and you can

2373
01:33:37,430 --> 01:33:34,480
go

2374
01:33:39,270 --> 01:33:37,440
it's on all the digital uh platforms um

2375
01:33:42,709 --> 01:33:39,280
i saw it on amazon

2376
01:33:43,990 --> 01:33:42,719
uh pop up now uh actually it was sir no

2377
01:33:47,669 --> 01:33:44,000
face

2378
01:33:50,229 --> 01:33:47,679
part two is what i saw pop-up on amazon

2379
01:33:51,510 --> 01:33:50,239
and uh tomorrow night is phantom rider

2380
01:33:54,709 --> 01:33:51,520
now i don't want

2381
01:33:57,910 --> 01:33:56,709
wow cough came out of nowhere that's why

2382
01:34:01,030 --> 01:33:57,920
i have a cough button

2383
01:34:03,030 --> 01:34:01,040
uh chad um is uh

2384
01:34:04,709 --> 01:34:03,040
i don't want to give away any spoilers

2385
01:34:05,990 --> 01:34:04,719
but i do want to talk about a couple of

2386
01:34:09,110 --> 01:34:06,000
specific

2387
01:34:11,110 --> 01:34:09,120
moments in the film and and one of them

2388
01:34:12,950 --> 01:34:11,120
we touched upon this earlier the fake

2389
01:34:16,070 --> 01:34:12,960
alien invasion

2390
01:34:19,189 --> 01:34:16,080
um and the the way

2391
01:34:21,510 --> 01:34:19,199
that uh skyfall

2392
01:34:23,350 --> 01:34:21,520
presents it to you and it's a very

2393
01:34:26,709 --> 01:34:23,360
interesting take

2394
01:34:30,470 --> 01:34:26,719
that the tic tac specifically

2395
01:34:32,790 --> 01:34:30,480
is part of this plan

2396
01:34:34,709 --> 01:34:32,800
and as you're starting to that the film

2397
01:34:36,709 --> 01:34:34,719
goes into this in depth and and

2398
01:34:38,870 --> 01:34:36,719
everybody can go and check it out

2399
01:34:42,229 --> 01:34:38,880
but for you did that did that like add

2400
01:34:44,470 --> 01:34:42,239
up did two and two equal four

2401
01:34:45,990 --> 01:34:44,480
well it did in the sense that that the

2402
01:34:47,750 --> 01:34:46,000
navy would be controlling this and they

2403
01:34:51,270 --> 01:34:47,760
would know what it is

2404
01:34:51,910 --> 01:34:51,280
um but and that's when i look at it

2405
01:34:55,830 --> 01:34:51,920
either

2406
01:34:58,870 --> 01:34:55,840
close up or from a distance you know um

2407
01:35:02,070 --> 01:34:58,880
again when the idea

2408
01:35:05,189 --> 01:35:02,080
that the pentagon would just

2409
01:35:07,510 --> 01:35:05,199
release footage to america

2410
01:35:08,709 --> 01:35:07,520
and say here's three videos over the

2411
01:35:11,990 --> 01:35:08,719
course of this long

2412
01:35:14,470 --> 01:35:12,000
long span of time essentially in which

2413
01:35:15,510 --> 01:35:14,480
you weren't safe america because we

2414
01:35:18,709 --> 01:35:15,520
don't know what this stuff

2415
01:35:20,950 --> 01:35:18,719
is and it defies physics and it blows

2416
01:35:22,870 --> 01:35:20,960
all of our machinery out of the water

2417
01:35:25,830 --> 01:35:22,880
and we had no clue what it would

2418
01:35:30,310 --> 01:35:25,840
why would you ever put that out there

2419
01:35:31,750 --> 01:35:30,320
to me the only reason they wouldn't that

2420
01:35:32,229 --> 01:35:31,760
they would put it out there is if there

2421
01:35:36,070 --> 01:35:32,239
wasn't

2422
01:35:37,830 --> 01:35:36,080
a real risk of of that footage

2423
01:35:39,430 --> 01:35:37,840
you know whatever that's in that footage

2424
01:35:42,790 --> 01:35:39,440
that they know what it is

2425
01:35:44,790 --> 01:35:42,800
um i also got to thinking after he and

2426
01:35:46,870 --> 01:35:44,800
this i kind of came up with my own after

2427
01:35:50,470 --> 01:35:46,880
listening to fraber's interviews

2428
01:35:53,669 --> 01:35:50,480
i was thinking well if they weren't

2429
01:35:54,950 --> 01:35:53,679
being told to go investigate these

2430
01:35:56,629 --> 01:35:54,960
things as they were coming down for like

2431
01:35:58,070 --> 01:35:56,639
the first two weeks

2432
01:35:59,750 --> 01:35:58,080
then that led me to believe that it was

2433
01:36:02,070 --> 01:35:59,760
our military's too that they had new

2434
01:36:04,310 --> 01:36:02,080
stuff they were just trying out

2435
01:36:05,510 --> 01:36:04,320
and they wanted to see in a real world

2436
01:36:09,990 --> 01:36:05,520
situation

2437
01:36:11,669 --> 01:36:10,000
how that stuff would work and um so

2438
01:36:13,910 --> 01:36:11,679
well let me let me jump in so what

2439
01:36:17,109 --> 01:36:13,920
you're suggesting then is

2440
01:36:20,149 --> 01:36:17,119
uh whether it is nasa or lockheed

2441
01:36:24,390 --> 01:36:20,159
or you know whoever has this technology

2442
01:36:27,350 --> 01:36:24,400
that the the powers uh

2443
01:36:28,229 --> 01:36:27,360
the generals and the captains and the

2444
01:36:30,229 --> 01:36:28,239
admirals

2445
01:36:32,790 --> 01:36:30,239
uh that are involved here when i say

2446
01:36:35,750 --> 01:36:32,800
generals talking about all aspects of

2447
01:36:36,709 --> 01:36:35,760
the department of defense they knew what

2448
01:36:40,390 --> 01:36:36,719
was

2449
01:36:41,590 --> 01:36:40,400
being tested but the crew members and

2450
01:36:45,189 --> 01:36:41,600
the pilots

2451
01:36:47,270 --> 01:36:45,199
had no idea right on purpose to generate

2452
01:36:49,270 --> 01:36:47,280
a real world scenario

2453
01:36:51,750 --> 01:36:49,280
right to really get their reactions how

2454
01:36:53,350 --> 01:36:51,760
well can this technology really work

2455
01:36:55,669 --> 01:36:53,360
and the only way to find that out is

2456
01:36:57,510 --> 01:36:55,679
obviously to send a pilot out

2457
01:36:58,709 --> 01:36:57,520
that doesn't know what he's looking at

2458
01:37:00,870 --> 01:36:58,719
because they're gonna resp

2459
01:37:02,310 --> 01:37:00,880
the enemy would respond the same way if

2460
01:37:04,390 --> 01:37:02,320
they don't know what it is

2461
01:37:07,270 --> 01:37:04,400
because it's hard for me to believe that

2462
01:37:10,550 --> 01:37:07,280
right now if off the coast of la

2463
01:37:11,430 --> 01:37:10,560
if 20 objects just appeared and came

2464
01:37:12,870 --> 01:37:11,440
down

2465
01:37:14,790 --> 01:37:12,880
that we wouldn't be all over it and

2466
01:37:16,149 --> 01:37:14,800
shooting it the last time an object came

2467
01:37:16,709 --> 01:37:16,159
off the coast of la we know what

2468
01:37:18,870 --> 01:37:16,719
happened

2469
01:37:20,229 --> 01:37:18,880
yeah battle of los angeles that's right

2470
01:37:21,590 --> 01:37:20,239
you lit it up and hit it with everything

2471
01:37:23,910 --> 01:37:21,600
we had

2472
01:37:25,830 --> 01:37:23,920
you know so it doesn't make any sense to

2473
01:37:27,990 --> 01:37:25,840
me that led me to believe

2474
01:37:29,270 --> 01:37:28,000
okay we own this stuff like we either

2475
01:37:33,189 --> 01:37:29,280
know what it is

2476
01:37:34,950 --> 01:37:33,199
and we we cracked some you know

2477
01:37:36,790 --> 01:37:34,960
we cracked the code of physics on how to

2478
01:37:40,070 --> 01:37:36,800
do anti-gravity

2479
01:37:42,629 --> 01:37:40,080
and they were testing it out um

2480
01:37:44,790 --> 01:37:42,639
that made me believe that or look i mean

2481
01:37:48,070 --> 01:37:44,800
if you want to go far on the alien

2482
01:37:51,030 --> 01:37:48,080
um aspect of it it could be

2483
01:37:52,550 --> 01:37:51,040
you know uh if if in fact the government

2484
01:37:55,189 --> 01:37:52,560
is working directly with

2485
01:37:56,629 --> 01:37:55,199
alien kind has been suggested by people

2486
01:37:59,430 --> 01:37:56,639
like paul hillier

2487
01:38:00,950 --> 01:37:59,440
if that is in fact the case uh then it

2488
01:38:01,270 --> 01:38:00,960
could have been just a demonstration to

2489
01:38:03,830 --> 01:38:01,280
us

2490
01:38:05,510 --> 01:38:03,840
by an alien race of what their

2491
01:38:08,070 --> 01:38:05,520
technology can do

2492
01:38:09,750 --> 01:38:08,080
um you know i don't i don't know i don't

2493
01:38:11,669 --> 01:38:09,760
think any i don't think any of us are in

2494
01:38:14,390 --> 01:38:11,679
position to actually get that answer

2495
01:38:15,990 --> 01:38:14,400
but it made a lot of sense to me when

2496
01:38:17,990 --> 01:38:16,000
skyfall said listen

2497
01:38:20,149 --> 01:38:18,000
aliens are real and like all this stuff

2498
01:38:21,590 --> 01:38:20,159
but like this isn't this is a story

2499
01:38:24,709 --> 01:38:21,600
that's being placated

2500
01:38:25,510 --> 01:38:24,719
and and laid out for everybody here's

2501
01:38:27,990 --> 01:38:25,520
the proof

2502
01:38:29,189 --> 01:38:28,000
here's the navy here's the letter from

2503
01:38:32,790 --> 01:38:29,199
the navy

2504
01:38:36,310 --> 01:38:32,800
um saying you know and explaining to the

2505
01:38:38,390 --> 01:38:36,320
um patent you know officer yes this is

2506
01:38:40,229 --> 01:38:38,400
real we have a working

2507
01:38:42,229 --> 01:38:40,239
model of this we need this before the

2508
01:38:44,950 --> 01:38:42,239
chinese can get it that made sense to me

2509
01:38:46,550 --> 01:38:44,960
well yes and i'll tell you the other

2510
01:38:51,830 --> 01:38:46,560
interesting part

2511
01:38:54,470 --> 01:38:51,840
if um it's only the united states navy

2512
01:38:56,070 --> 01:38:54,480
that has been dealing with the tic tac

2513
01:38:59,270 --> 01:38:56,080
no word from the russians

2514
01:39:01,430 --> 01:38:59,280
if it's aliens right no no activity off

2515
01:39:02,149 --> 01:39:01,440
of the russian coast with russian battle

2516
01:39:03,750 --> 01:39:02,159
groups

2517
01:39:05,109 --> 01:39:03,760
nothing from the chinese nothing from

2518
01:39:08,149 --> 01:39:05,119
the australian something from the

2519
01:39:11,990 --> 01:39:08,159
japanese the israelis the united kingdom

2520
01:39:12,950 --> 01:39:12,000
it's only been the united states navy uh

2521
01:39:16,229 --> 01:39:12,960
reporting

2522
01:39:17,990 --> 01:39:16,239
these incidents and so if it's e.t

2523
01:39:20,070 --> 01:39:18,000
why would it just be isolated to the

2524
01:39:21,270 --> 01:39:20,080
united states why isn't this a global

2525
01:39:22,950 --> 01:39:21,280
situation

2526
01:39:25,030 --> 01:39:22,960
well here's another one too there's been

2527
01:39:25,750 --> 01:39:25,040
a few governments to release stuff but

2528
01:39:29,189 --> 01:39:25,760
where are they all

2529
01:39:31,669 --> 01:39:29,199
at mexico brazil all by us

2530
01:39:33,030 --> 01:39:31,679
all by america south america the

2531
01:39:36,709 --> 01:39:33,040
brazilian government

2532
01:39:39,189 --> 01:39:36,719
uh argentina chile right

2533
01:39:41,669 --> 01:39:39,199
our neighbors you know they're reporting

2534
01:39:44,790 --> 01:39:41,679
stuff are the same ocean we all fly

2535
01:39:47,910 --> 01:39:44,800
right so it seems to me

2536
01:39:51,030 --> 01:39:47,920
that that yes uh we

2537
01:39:51,350 --> 01:39:51,040
have a big hand in a lot of this um but

2538
01:39:54,950 --> 01:39:51,360
i

2539
01:39:58,070 --> 01:39:54,960
because

2540
01:40:00,629 --> 01:39:58,080
legitimate um

2541
01:40:02,550 --> 01:40:00,639
legitimate life forms have been here i i

2542
01:40:03,990 --> 01:40:02,560
i have seen footage of things that i do

2543
01:40:06,149 --> 01:40:04,000
believe to be

2544
01:40:08,229 --> 01:40:06,159
like look man that's not you know a

2545
01:40:10,390 --> 01:40:08,239
human craft that's like you know

2546
01:40:12,390 --> 01:40:10,400
some real the real deal stuff but it's

2547
01:40:14,629 --> 01:40:12,400
not even just in that world

2548
01:40:15,510 --> 01:40:14,639
even in the world of cosmology and

2549
01:40:18,229 --> 01:40:15,520
scientists

2550
01:40:20,310 --> 01:40:18,239
i mean remember when we grew up and we

2551
01:40:22,390 --> 01:40:20,320
just thought there was nine planets

2552
01:40:23,990 --> 01:40:22,400
right now now they've saying oh we found

2553
01:40:25,990 --> 01:40:24,000
13 more over here and

2554
01:40:27,590 --> 01:40:26,000
seven are in the goldilocks zone where

2555
01:40:29,430 --> 01:40:27,600
life could live on it you know and this

2556
01:40:31,030 --> 01:40:29,440
is all happening at the time

2557
01:40:32,470 --> 01:40:31,040
where where we've got you know our

2558
01:40:34,070 --> 01:40:32,480
crosshairs on mars

2559
01:40:35,669 --> 01:40:34,080
and we're going there i just saw this

2560
01:40:37,510 --> 01:40:35,679
other video oh there's there's life in

2561
01:40:39,270 --> 01:40:37,520
the clouds and venus

2562
01:40:41,510 --> 01:40:39,280
you know and just like this stuff is

2563
01:40:44,629 --> 01:40:41,520
going on across the board

2564
01:40:47,669 --> 01:40:44,639
everybody is preparing us for the fact

2565
01:40:50,149 --> 01:40:47,679
there is life there is life out there

2566
01:40:52,149 --> 01:40:50,159
and i think the tom de long thing i

2567
01:40:55,669 --> 01:40:52,159
think was a big

2568
01:40:57,830 --> 01:40:55,679
a big um preparation tactic

2569
01:40:59,990 --> 01:40:57,840
to see where you know where is the meter

2570
01:41:01,590 --> 01:41:00,000
on this i think that would that

2571
01:41:03,510 --> 01:41:01,600
that would have to happen no matter what

2572
01:41:06,550 --> 01:41:03,520
and i'll tell you something else that i

2573
01:41:07,590 --> 01:41:06,560
that i felt from my profession as a

2574
01:41:09,990 --> 01:41:07,600
filmmaker

2575
01:41:11,510 --> 01:41:10,000
and as somebody who's directed 40

2576
01:41:12,790 --> 01:41:11,520
outside of my paranormal stuff i've done

2577
01:41:16,070 --> 01:41:12,800
40 music videos

2578
01:41:19,990 --> 01:41:16,080
multiple a dozen commercials um

2579
01:41:24,550 --> 01:41:20,000
i can tell you when somebody has had

2580
01:41:26,470 --> 01:41:24,560
like media training okay

2581
01:41:29,189 --> 01:41:26,480
oh gosh what is his name he's on tom's

2582
01:41:32,709 --> 01:41:29,199
show the main guy that worked for atip

2583
01:41:35,750 --> 01:41:32,719
uh louis elizondo

2584
01:41:37,750 --> 01:41:35,760
has had media training i would put money

2585
01:41:39,669 --> 01:41:37,760
that that guy is an actor i'm just

2586
01:41:42,790 --> 01:41:39,679
telling you that's how

2587
01:41:43,590 --> 01:41:42,800
he appears to be an actor he is so slick

2588
01:41:45,910 --> 01:41:43,600
on camera

2589
01:41:46,709 --> 01:41:45,920
and when you work when you work in my

2590
01:41:50,070 --> 01:41:46,719
world

2591
01:41:52,229 --> 01:41:50,080
you realize that 99.99

2592
01:41:54,470 --> 01:41:52,239
of people are incredibly uncomfortable

2593
01:41:56,470 --> 01:41:54,480
on camera it does not work well that's

2594
01:41:58,709 --> 01:41:56,480
why people that are comfortable

2595
01:42:00,070 --> 01:41:58,719
get paid billions of dollars to go out

2596
01:42:03,350 --> 01:42:00,080
and do what they do

2597
01:42:04,229 --> 01:42:03,360
he appears to have a ton of media

2598
01:42:06,750 --> 01:42:04,239
training

2599
01:42:09,109 --> 01:42:06,760
he appears either that or he's just

2600
01:42:10,870 --> 01:42:09,119
incredibly charismatic

2601
01:42:12,629 --> 01:42:10,880
for the position that he was in the

2602
01:42:14,070 --> 01:42:12,639
military which is known for having not

2603
01:42:15,189 --> 01:42:14,080
very charismatic people

2604
01:42:17,750 --> 01:42:15,199
you know you'd love to believe that

2605
01:42:20,870 --> 01:42:17,760
everybody's learning they're not

2606
01:42:22,550 --> 01:42:20,880
okay they're not and when i saw him

2607
01:42:24,550 --> 01:42:22,560
on it was one of the first things i said

2608
01:42:26,709 --> 01:42:24,560
to my producer partner i said man

2609
01:42:27,910 --> 01:42:26,719
i just this guy's an actor i'm telling

2610
01:42:30,149 --> 01:42:27,920
you and then i saw an

2611
01:42:31,590 --> 01:42:30,159
article came out of someone that said

2612
01:42:33,189 --> 01:42:31,600
yeah there was all kinds of stuff about

2613
01:42:34,629 --> 01:42:33,199
his history that didn't add up

2614
01:42:36,870 --> 01:42:34,639
that they were saying that he never

2615
01:42:38,149 --> 01:42:36,880
actually worked directly in the position

2616
01:42:39,910 --> 01:42:38,159
that he said he worked in

2617
01:42:41,189 --> 01:42:39,920
this this story just came out and i was

2618
01:42:41,590 --> 01:42:41,199
like i don't know if that's true or not

2619
01:42:44,629 --> 01:42:41,600
and

2620
01:42:46,790 --> 01:42:44,639
don't want to even begin to like

2621
01:42:48,790 --> 01:42:46,800
discredit him about his past service

2622
01:42:49,830 --> 01:42:48,800
but i'm telling you at some point

2623
01:42:52,390 --> 01:42:49,840
somebody gave him

2624
01:42:53,830 --> 01:42:52,400
some media training he's too good he's

2625
01:42:57,830 --> 01:42:53,840
too slick

2626
01:42:59,910 --> 01:42:57,840
he's too good yeah oh now let's uh

2627
01:43:01,030 --> 01:42:59,920
watch versus david fraber watch him

2628
01:43:03,430 --> 01:43:01,040
versus fraber

2629
01:43:04,550 --> 01:43:03,440
fraver is very uncomfortable and kind of

2630
01:43:07,590 --> 01:43:04,560
stiff and

2631
01:43:08,629 --> 01:43:07,600
you know didn't watch louisando there's

2632
01:43:12,790 --> 01:43:08,639
a massive difference

2633
01:43:16,149 --> 01:43:12,800
yes there is there is there is and uh

2634
01:43:17,270 --> 01:43:16,159
there's another uh aspect to phantom

2635
01:43:20,629 --> 01:43:17,280
rider

2636
01:43:23,430 --> 01:43:20,639
and that is the obvious

2637
01:43:23,990 --> 01:43:23,440
interference into your personal life and

2638
01:43:27,510 --> 01:43:24,000
and

2639
01:43:31,270 --> 01:43:27,520
of course to craigs2 as well um

2640
01:43:33,590 --> 01:43:31,280
has that slowed down

2641
01:43:35,109 --> 01:43:33,600
okay let me ask you this uh you can

2642
01:43:38,149 --> 01:43:35,119
answer that question of course

2643
01:43:39,510 --> 01:43:38,159
when did you do the final rendering what

2644
01:43:42,149 --> 01:43:39,520
was the date on that

2645
01:43:45,270 --> 01:43:42,159
when did you deliver oh god that was the

2646
01:43:48,149 --> 01:43:46,790
okay everybody i'm gonna let you know

2647
01:43:50,070 --> 01:43:48,159
that the noise you hear in the

2648
01:43:53,830 --> 01:43:50,080
background is not the nsa

2649
01:43:55,430 --> 01:43:53,840
yeah it that's chad's dog so chad's dog

2650
01:43:56,550 --> 01:43:55,440
is partying in the background it's

2651
01:43:59,669 --> 01:43:56,560
pretty funny

2652
01:44:01,350 --> 01:43:59,679
um it was last uh february it was early

2653
01:44:04,390 --> 01:44:01,360
february is when i finished that up

2654
01:44:07,430 --> 01:44:04,400
of uh 2020. yes

2655
01:44:08,390 --> 01:44:07,440
okay so now you've got uh we're in the

2656
01:44:10,790 --> 01:44:08,400
11th month

2657
01:44:11,669 --> 01:44:10,800
so 10 months have gone by has the

2658
01:44:15,669 --> 01:44:11,679
interference

2659
01:44:18,629 --> 01:44:15,679
slowed down well

2660
01:44:19,109 --> 01:44:18,639
yes and no i know in the sen yes in the

2661
01:44:21,750 --> 01:44:19,119
sense

2662
01:44:22,149 --> 01:44:21,760
that i just haven't left my house and

2663
01:44:24,709 --> 01:44:22,159
i've been

2664
01:44:25,910 --> 01:44:24,719
fairly inactive because of kovid and

2665
01:44:29,669 --> 01:44:25,920
everything

2666
01:44:31,510 --> 01:44:29,679
but there has been really bizarre things

2667
01:44:32,790 --> 01:44:31,520
that went on that i don't know how i

2668
01:44:35,030 --> 01:44:32,800
feel about it yet

2669
01:44:36,629 --> 01:44:35,040
i as you saw if you were to film i lost

2670
01:44:39,750 --> 01:44:36,639
my father

2671
01:44:43,109 --> 01:44:39,760
at the end of the film and

2672
01:44:46,149 --> 01:44:43,119
his passing he just went from being

2673
01:44:49,189 --> 01:44:46,159
completely healthy

2674
01:44:51,510 --> 01:44:49,199
to gone six months later and the doctors

2675
01:44:54,229 --> 01:44:51,520
had no idea what happened to him

2676
01:44:56,709 --> 01:44:54,239
he he they said his reason of passing

2677
01:44:59,990 --> 01:44:56,719
was something called malignant catatonia

2678
01:45:03,669 --> 01:45:00,000
which is he just rapidly

2679
01:45:05,669 --> 01:45:03,679
lost his mind and it was the hardest

2680
01:45:06,790 --> 01:45:05,679
most difficult thing that i've ever been

2681
01:45:08,790 --> 01:45:06,800
through

2682
01:45:09,990 --> 01:45:08,800
and when i say no nothing's happened

2683
01:45:12,229 --> 01:45:10,000
it's because

2684
01:45:13,669 --> 01:45:12,239
he was my focus i just didn't let the

2685
01:45:17,270 --> 01:45:13,679
world just didn't get in

2686
01:45:19,590 --> 01:45:17,280
you know like he was my focus and

2687
01:45:20,470 --> 01:45:19,600
um and it was very difficult on my

2688
01:45:24,149 --> 01:45:20,480
family

2689
01:45:27,990 --> 01:45:24,159
and my my my brother and my aunt

2690
01:45:29,189 --> 01:45:28,000
and so for me it was just a time period

2691
01:45:32,629 --> 01:45:29,199
where

2692
01:45:34,870 --> 01:45:32,639
i just put up a wall and and and didn't

2693
01:45:36,790 --> 01:45:34,880
didn't notice uh much because i wasn't

2694
01:45:38,629 --> 01:45:36,800
looking you know

2695
01:45:41,510 --> 01:45:38,639
when you focus on one thing you focus on

2696
01:45:45,350 --> 01:45:41,520
it now with craig i can tell you

2697
01:45:48,629 --> 01:45:45,360
everything has continued and it has

2698
01:45:50,950 --> 01:45:48,639
slowed down to a degree but he still

2699
01:45:55,350 --> 01:45:53,750
he had his computer completely hacked

2700
01:45:57,510 --> 01:45:55,360
just like mine was

2701
01:45:59,189 --> 01:45:57,520
um he actually got warning messages on

2702
01:46:00,870 --> 01:45:59,199
his computer they're not in this film

2703
01:46:02,550 --> 01:46:00,880
um but there's other things that will be

2704
01:46:04,310 --> 01:46:02,560
there will be one more film that's a

2705
01:46:05,750 --> 01:46:04,320
follow this to wrap it all up

2706
01:46:07,669 --> 01:46:05,760
at least i hope that celine does one

2707
01:46:08,790 --> 01:46:07,679
more um but it's going to include some

2708
01:46:09,990 --> 01:46:08,800
things that have been really interesting

2709
01:46:12,470 --> 01:46:10,000
to happen for example

2710
01:46:13,830 --> 01:46:12,480
he got remember when i told you i

2711
01:46:15,189 --> 01:46:13,840
thought there was a third party involved

2712
01:46:17,910 --> 01:46:15,199
in this for sure that wasn't

2713
01:46:19,590 --> 01:46:17,920
government right he got a request a

2714
01:46:21,350 --> 01:46:19,600
freedom of information request

2715
01:46:22,950 --> 01:46:21,360
service to him by the australian

2716
01:46:24,310 --> 01:46:22,960
government and

2717
01:46:25,430 --> 01:46:24,320
they won't tell them who it's from but

2718
01:46:27,030 --> 01:46:25,440
they can tell them that it's not from

2719
01:46:29,350 --> 01:46:27,040
the united states

2720
01:46:30,229 --> 01:46:29,360
and it's not from them and what they

2721
01:46:37,270 --> 01:46:30,239
wanted

2722
01:46:39,750 --> 01:46:37,280
any information that he had shared

2723
01:46:40,550 --> 01:46:39,760
or displayed to the australian

2724
01:46:42,629 --> 01:46:40,560
government

2725
01:46:44,229 --> 01:46:42,639
well craig thinks that's the footage he

2726
01:46:47,189 --> 01:46:44,239
has he has over a hundred

2727
01:46:48,629 --> 01:46:47,199
hours of additional footage that he

2728
01:46:50,950 --> 01:46:48,639
hasn't gone through yet

2729
01:46:52,629 --> 01:46:50,960
from cockatoo island that he has in a

2730
01:46:53,990 --> 01:46:52,639
safe place

2731
01:46:56,790 --> 01:46:54,000
where it's hidden and multiple people

2732
01:46:59,430 --> 01:46:56,800
have copies of it to make sure

2733
01:47:00,550 --> 01:46:59,440
and he believes there's more on there

2734
01:47:04,149 --> 01:47:00,560
and we we know

2735
01:47:07,030 --> 01:47:04,159
of another um

2736
01:47:08,629 --> 01:47:07,040
entity called mini uh and there is

2737
01:47:11,189 --> 01:47:08,639
footage of her

2738
01:47:12,790 --> 01:47:11,199
singing she would sing whenever you

2739
01:47:15,270 --> 01:47:12,800
would turn on the radio

2740
01:47:16,790 --> 01:47:15,280
uh like like white static she would

2741
01:47:18,310 --> 01:47:16,800
start singing

2742
01:47:19,669 --> 01:47:18,320
uh if you'd play a guitar and you'd

2743
01:47:21,030 --> 01:47:19,679
start singing a song she would start

2744
01:47:23,189 --> 01:47:21,040
harmonizing

2745
01:47:25,189 --> 01:47:23,199
and i've seen the footage i've seen it

2746
01:47:28,149 --> 01:47:25,199
man i mean it's mind-blowing

2747
01:47:28,550 --> 01:47:28,159
um craig has a lot of additional footage

2748
01:47:29,990 --> 01:47:28,560
there

2749
01:47:33,109 --> 01:47:30,000
and he doesn't want to give it up and i

2750
01:47:36,070 --> 01:47:33,119
understand why and

2751
01:47:36,629 --> 01:47:36,080
so there's other stuff i should i should

2752
01:47:37,830 --> 01:47:36,639
not

2753
01:47:39,750 --> 01:47:37,840
let out because there's going to be like

2754
01:47:42,790 --> 01:47:39,760
i said a fourth film but

2755
01:47:45,109 --> 01:47:42,800
uh things have continued but i'll tell

2756
01:47:48,390 --> 01:47:45,119
you what every time i put up a film

2757
01:47:50,390 --> 01:47:48,400
it's like man i almost dread it because

2758
01:47:51,510 --> 01:47:50,400
there is definitely always an increase

2759
01:47:54,390 --> 01:47:51,520
like right after that

2760
01:47:55,109 --> 01:47:54,400
almost like a punishment you know of of

2761
01:47:58,470 --> 01:47:55,119
putting stuff

2762
01:48:02,070 --> 01:47:58,480
out uh around this this project um

2763
01:48:03,910 --> 01:48:02,080
well what about uh uh

2764
01:48:05,350 --> 01:48:03,920
you know the men in black and and the

2765
01:48:08,229 --> 01:48:05,360
cars following you

2766
01:48:09,430 --> 01:48:08,239
and certainly uh computer and phone

2767
01:48:11,270 --> 01:48:09,440
interference

2768
01:48:13,430 --> 01:48:11,280
um has that slowed down or is that

2769
01:48:16,790 --> 01:48:13,440
continuing with me

2770
01:48:18,390 --> 01:48:16,800
i i've just i've i've not seen anyone

2771
01:48:19,830 --> 01:48:18,400
follow me because i barely drove

2772
01:48:20,390 --> 01:48:19,840
anywhere when i have i haven't seen

2773
01:48:22,470 --> 01:48:20,400
anything

2774
01:48:24,229 --> 01:48:22,480
stuff with my computer is non-stop it's

2775
01:48:27,590 --> 01:48:24,239
always weird stuff going on

2776
01:48:28,790 --> 01:48:27,600
um i definitely i a week ago my phone

2777
01:48:31,510 --> 01:48:28,800
was hacked where

2778
01:48:31,990 --> 01:48:31,520
all of my uh passwords were changed on

2779
01:48:33,830 --> 01:48:32,000
everything

2780
01:48:35,910 --> 01:48:33,840
that i have and there's a couple

2781
01:48:37,189 --> 01:48:35,920
passwords or a couple programs i have

2782
01:48:38,629 --> 01:48:37,199
where you change the password it'll tell

2783
01:48:40,870 --> 01:48:38,639
you what the old one was

2784
01:48:42,470 --> 01:48:40,880
and it's stuff i would never choose you

2785
01:48:43,910 --> 01:48:42,480
know that's consistently happening

2786
01:48:45,910 --> 01:48:43,920
i know that like i said that recently

2787
01:48:46,870 --> 01:48:45,920
happened to craig um he also had

2788
01:48:50,070 --> 01:48:46,880
warnings

2789
01:48:51,990 --> 01:48:50,080
uh his children were threatened

2790
01:48:53,750 --> 01:48:52,000
uh warnings that they know where they

2791
01:48:58,390 --> 01:48:53,760
get picked up from school

2792
01:48:59,910 --> 01:48:58,400
um she feels she uh i believe

2793
01:49:01,590 --> 01:48:59,920
craig said she was still being followed

2794
01:49:02,790 --> 01:49:01,600
as well and

2795
01:49:04,709 --> 01:49:02,800
you know you'll see at the end of the

2796
01:49:05,830 --> 01:49:04,719
film i suppose like it's not the big big

2797
01:49:07,590 --> 01:49:05,840
giveaway but

2798
01:49:09,910 --> 01:49:07,600
you know there's a really scary moment

2799
01:49:11,830 --> 01:49:09,920
there and i'm really glad that

2800
01:49:13,189 --> 01:49:11,840
craig's children finally speak his

2801
01:49:14,629 --> 01:49:13,199
oldest son because

2802
01:49:16,310 --> 01:49:14,639
they were just very nervous obviously

2803
01:49:19,510 --> 01:49:16,320
about putting them on film

2804
01:49:21,270 --> 01:49:19,520
um but his oldest son you know witnessed

2805
01:49:23,430 --> 01:49:21,280
an experience where they all went to bed

2806
01:49:26,070 --> 01:49:23,440
in the house and it was locked

2807
01:49:26,830 --> 01:49:26,080
and then you know his son woke up to

2808
01:49:30,709 --> 01:49:26,840
craig

2809
01:49:33,990 --> 01:49:30,719
outside knocking on the door freezing

2810
01:49:34,709 --> 01:49:34,000
in which you know craig went to sleep

2811
01:49:38,070 --> 01:49:34,719
and

2812
01:49:40,390 --> 01:49:38,080
woke up in a field like you know

2813
01:49:41,669 --> 01:49:40,400
half a mile down the road well something

2814
01:49:43,910 --> 01:49:41,679
something weird happened

2815
01:49:45,030 --> 01:49:43,920
to me today i didn't tell you about this

2816
01:49:47,750 --> 01:49:45,040
um but

2817
01:49:49,910 --> 01:49:47,760
um i have uh i have a lot of computers

2818
01:49:51,189 --> 01:49:49,920
uh you can see my studio you're looking

2819
01:49:55,270 --> 01:49:51,199
at it here

2820
01:49:57,910 --> 01:49:55,280
um uh craig and i or chad and i craig

2821
01:50:00,310 --> 01:49:57,920
chad and i craig's in australia chad and

2822
01:50:03,830 --> 01:50:00,320
i can see each other uh on video

2823
01:50:07,910 --> 01:50:03,840
um but i have a a very serious system

2824
01:50:09,589 --> 01:50:07,920
here and uh with protocols in place and

2825
01:50:10,070 --> 01:50:09,599
one of them you know i use virtual

2826
01:50:14,070 --> 01:50:10,080
shield

2827
01:50:17,589 --> 01:50:14,080
amongst other things today uh watching

2828
01:50:19,990 --> 01:50:17,599
uh your film uh

2829
01:50:21,430 --> 01:50:20,000
uh catching up on the the last part of

2830
01:50:24,629 --> 01:50:21,440
the film today

2831
01:50:25,750 --> 01:50:24,639
i got uh a virus attack which never

2832
01:50:28,870 --> 01:50:25,760
happens

2833
01:50:29,510 --> 01:50:28,880
really and uh had to i had to do a

2834
01:50:32,149 --> 01:50:29,520
cleanse

2835
01:50:33,830 --> 01:50:32,159
and uh and and a reboot but i got

2836
01:50:36,390 --> 01:50:33,840
nervous there for a second

2837
01:50:37,030 --> 01:50:36,400
um which never happens i mean years uh

2838
01:50:40,629 --> 01:50:37,040
we have

2839
01:50:42,870 --> 01:50:40,639
we run very serious uh things here but

2840
01:50:44,310 --> 01:50:42,880
it all got fixed but it was just kind of

2841
01:50:46,629 --> 01:50:44,320
weird that i'm watching

2842
01:50:48,149 --> 01:50:46,639
phantom rider and and dealing with the

2843
01:50:48,550 --> 01:50:48,159
issues that you're dealing with in the

2844
01:50:51,109 --> 01:50:48,560
phone

2845
01:50:52,229 --> 01:50:51,119
uh in the film and then that happened to

2846
01:50:55,830 --> 01:50:52,239
me today and

2847
01:50:57,430 --> 01:50:55,840
look coincidence probably but it was it

2848
01:50:57,910 --> 01:50:57,440
was very interesting for me to go

2849
01:51:01,189 --> 01:50:57,920
through that

2850
01:51:03,510 --> 01:51:01,199
it's super scary like you know look

2851
01:51:04,629 --> 01:51:03,520
there you can see in the film too i talk

2852
01:51:06,709 --> 01:51:04,639
about like

2853
01:51:08,790 --> 01:51:06,719
our our banking records got hacked like

2854
01:51:10,870 --> 01:51:08,800
there were people in brazil

2855
01:51:12,790 --> 01:51:10,880
that were charges being made like

2856
01:51:15,350 --> 01:51:12,800
they're just every aspect

2857
01:51:16,790 --> 01:51:15,360
of my life which you see kind of come

2858
01:51:19,830 --> 01:51:16,800
down this film

2859
01:51:21,430 --> 01:51:19,840
was going haywire you know and you're

2860
01:51:24,550 --> 01:51:21,440
not the first person

2861
01:51:26,790 --> 01:51:24,560
to message me and say hey man

2862
01:51:28,149 --> 01:51:26,800
like what are you sending me like i

2863
01:51:30,709 --> 01:51:28,159
watched your film

2864
01:51:31,830 --> 01:51:30,719
and my film's jacked now and i was like

2865
01:51:35,270 --> 01:51:31,840
yeah it's not

2866
01:51:37,270 --> 01:51:35,280
i don't know man i don't know um

2867
01:51:38,709 --> 01:51:37,280
that's the thing it's i think these

2868
01:51:41,589 --> 01:51:38,719
three films now that

2869
01:51:42,950 --> 01:51:41,599
you know almost five years of my life in

2870
01:51:45,270 --> 01:51:42,960
this story

2871
01:51:46,149 --> 01:51:45,280
when i sit back and i look at it it's

2872
01:51:48,470 --> 01:51:46,159
one of the best

2873
01:51:49,350 --> 01:51:48,480
documented examples that this harassment

2874
01:51:50,709 --> 01:51:49,360
stuff is real

2875
01:51:52,629 --> 01:51:50,719
and there's how many books have been

2876
01:51:55,030 --> 01:51:52,639
written about this how many people

2877
01:51:56,390 --> 01:51:55,040
have talked about this and it does i'm

2878
01:52:00,229 --> 01:51:56,400
the first person to say

2879
01:52:01,589 --> 01:52:00,239
it sounds crazy um and you've probably

2880
01:52:05,030 --> 01:52:01,599
seen it with me and that's talking about

2881
01:52:09,030 --> 01:52:05,040
the ufo i i naturally side towards

2882
01:52:11,430 --> 01:52:09,040
the debunker that's just my natural so

2883
01:52:12,550 --> 01:52:11,440
all three of these films are such a real

2884
01:52:14,390 --> 01:52:12,560
example

2885
01:52:16,149 --> 01:52:14,400
of what happens when you get too close

2886
01:52:18,709 --> 01:52:16,159
to something and

2887
01:52:19,750 --> 01:52:18,719
look all these agencies like what do you

2888
01:52:22,390 --> 01:52:19,760
think they do like

2889
01:52:22,870 --> 01:52:22,400
in their like in the pentagon they sit

2890
01:52:25,270 --> 01:52:22,880
around

2891
01:52:26,070 --> 01:52:25,280
and protect information that's what they

2892
01:52:27,750 --> 01:52:26,080
do

2893
01:52:30,870 --> 01:52:27,760
you know and that's what i kind of

2894
01:52:31,430 --> 01:52:30,880
realize with this is we're somewhere we

2895
01:52:37,189 --> 01:52:31,440
don't

2896
01:52:39,270 --> 01:52:37,199
do you feel that uh and chad this is the

2897
01:52:41,910 --> 01:52:39,280
obvious question but

2898
01:52:43,669 --> 01:52:41,920
do you feel that you're just you got too

2899
01:52:46,310 --> 01:52:43,679
close

2900
01:52:48,790 --> 01:52:46,320
too much was exposed to you and these

2901
01:52:51,510 --> 01:52:48,800
are messages for you to back off

2902
01:52:52,070 --> 01:52:51,520
and are you one to back off because of

2903
01:52:55,589 --> 01:52:52,080
these

2904
01:52:58,790 --> 01:52:55,599
incidents and that question is the best

2905
01:53:00,070 --> 01:52:58,800
question that could be asked and

2906
01:53:02,229 --> 01:53:00,080
the only reason i'm not going to answer

2907
01:53:03,510 --> 01:53:02,239
it right now is because it's posed at

2908
01:53:05,510 --> 01:53:03,520
the end of the question

2909
01:53:06,709 --> 01:53:05,520
that question comes up at the end of fam

2910
01:53:10,950 --> 01:53:06,719
rider

2911
01:53:14,950 --> 01:53:10,960
and um it's something

2912
01:53:16,310 --> 01:53:14,960
i i know i know where my ejection seat

2913
01:53:23,109 --> 01:53:16,320
is

2914
01:53:25,750 --> 01:53:23,119
be a martyr i don't want to die

2915
01:53:27,430 --> 01:53:25,760
none of this stuff is worth it um i

2916
01:53:29,350 --> 01:53:27,440
talked about the gentleman

2917
01:53:30,550 --> 01:53:29,360
uh what's that i guess i get his name in

2918
01:53:32,149 --> 01:53:30,560
the film who

2919
01:53:34,070 --> 01:53:32,159
um they found he had the black fluid

2920
01:53:37,430 --> 01:53:34,080
leaking out of his mouth oh yeah from uh

2921
01:53:38,709 --> 01:53:37,440
europe right right i'm not that guy man

2922
01:53:40,390 --> 01:53:38,719
you know what i mean i i'm not even

2923
01:53:42,709 --> 01:53:40,400
ufologist you know it's

2924
01:53:44,149 --> 01:53:42,719
like i'm and you hear me talking with

2925
01:53:45,430 --> 01:53:44,159
justin and two face to gray about that

2926
01:53:48,709 --> 01:53:45,440
where he was just like

2927
01:53:49,589 --> 01:53:48,719
where's the how far do you go i look i

2928
01:53:52,229 --> 01:53:49,599
don't want to be

2929
01:53:53,990 --> 01:53:52,239
a martyr in any capacity whatsoever i

2930
01:53:55,109 --> 01:53:54,000
absolutely want to take the camera where

2931
01:53:56,790 --> 01:53:55,119
it doesn't go

2932
01:53:58,629 --> 01:53:56,800
i i want to tell the stories need to be

2933
01:54:00,790 --> 01:53:58,639
told i want to show if this stuff is

2934
01:54:02,310 --> 01:54:00,800
real

2935
01:54:03,830 --> 01:54:02,320
but i don't want to die for any of this

2936
01:54:04,950 --> 01:54:03,840
none of it's worth dying for as far as

2937
01:54:08,310 --> 01:54:04,960
i'm concerned

2938
01:54:11,430 --> 01:54:08,320
but there are some unanswered questions

2939
01:54:14,709 --> 01:54:11,440
still have you have you seen

2940
01:54:17,990 --> 01:54:14,719
a ufo i believe

2941
01:54:20,870 --> 01:54:18,000
i have i filmed it um

2942
01:54:21,350 --> 01:54:20,880
well i mean my answer is yes but oddly

2943
01:54:24,870 --> 01:54:21,360
enough

2944
01:54:27,669 --> 01:54:24,880
when i moved out here i was back when

2945
01:54:29,830 --> 01:54:27,679
i was doing uh directing music videos i

2946
01:54:32,629 --> 01:54:29,840
was up at topanga canyon

2947
01:54:34,950 --> 01:54:32,639
and it was just the middle of the day

2948
01:54:37,510 --> 01:54:34,960
there was not a cloud in the sky

2949
01:54:39,350 --> 01:54:37,520
and you know we're just filming and i

2950
01:54:42,470 --> 01:54:39,360
just happen to look up and i see this

2951
01:54:43,990 --> 01:54:42,480
white thing and it almost looks like um

2952
01:54:46,149 --> 01:54:44,000
like a it's super long

2953
01:54:47,270 --> 01:54:46,159
and it's like a hanger like it's bent

2954
01:54:50,310 --> 01:54:47,280
and it's making these

2955
01:54:53,109 --> 01:54:50,320
almost boomeranging rotations with it

2956
01:54:53,750 --> 01:54:53,119
massively flying across at an ungodly

2957
01:54:56,390 --> 01:54:53,760
rate

2958
01:54:57,990 --> 01:54:56,400
as fast as can be in which i stopped and

2959
01:55:00,149 --> 01:54:58,000
saw the entire crew i'm like yo

2960
01:55:01,589 --> 01:55:00,159
film that what is that and we all like

2961
01:55:03,589 --> 01:55:01,599
look out over like what

2962
01:55:04,709 --> 01:55:03,599
is that and like none of us can make out

2963
01:55:07,830 --> 01:55:04,719
what it is

2964
01:55:10,310 --> 01:55:07,840
it takes off fast as can be

2965
01:55:11,109 --> 01:55:10,320
towards catalina island and then it just

2966
01:55:12,950 --> 01:55:11,119
vanishes

2967
01:55:14,709 --> 01:55:12,960
oddly enough toward catalina island this

2968
01:55:16,390 --> 01:55:14,719
is where david fravor had his

2969
01:55:18,629 --> 01:55:16,400
this all happened out there just before

2970
01:55:22,149 --> 01:55:18,639
i knew any of that this is like 19

2971
01:55:25,589 --> 01:55:22,159
it wasn't in 2002 or three um

2972
01:55:27,430 --> 01:55:25,599
filmed it went online to look and found

2973
01:55:29,030 --> 01:55:27,440
that there are places all over the world

2974
01:55:31,430 --> 01:55:29,040
where this specific craft

2975
01:55:32,629 --> 01:55:31,440
has been seen and filmed before um as a

2976
01:55:35,830 --> 01:55:32,639
ufo

2977
01:55:39,189 --> 01:55:35,840
um what was really weird about it is

2978
01:55:40,470 --> 01:55:39,199
when we saw it we all had this weird

2979
01:55:42,550 --> 01:55:40,480
feeling

2980
01:55:44,550 --> 01:55:42,560
like we should look at it like it wasn't

2981
01:55:46,950 --> 01:55:44,560
a physical sensation it was a weird

2982
01:55:48,550 --> 01:55:46,960
feeling that we all had that we were

2983
01:55:49,350 --> 01:55:48,560
like meant to look away it was weird

2984
01:55:50,709 --> 01:55:49,360
like we all

2985
01:55:52,790 --> 01:55:50,719
that's the best way i can describe it it

2986
01:55:55,589 --> 01:55:52,800
was a weird feeling we all had

2987
01:55:56,229 --> 01:55:55,599
um but that was the only time that that

2988
01:56:18,870 --> 01:55:56,239
i

2989
01:56:21,990 --> 01:56:18,880
the sky

2990
01:56:23,430 --> 01:56:22,000
was um back uh

2991
01:56:25,030 --> 01:56:23,440
the reason i remember this is because i

2992
01:56:26,709 --> 01:56:25,040
was a huge baseball fan

2993
01:56:28,229 --> 01:56:26,719
remember the world series in san

2994
01:56:29,189 --> 01:56:28,239
francisco when they had their earthquake

2995
01:56:32,310 --> 01:56:29,199
yep

2996
01:56:33,109 --> 01:56:32,320
that night i was into ninjutsu believe

2997
01:56:35,350 --> 01:56:33,119
it or not

2998
01:56:37,109 --> 01:56:35,360
it was like this martial arts and i was

2999
01:56:40,070 --> 01:56:37,119
driving there and we saw these

3000
01:56:41,270 --> 01:56:40,080
crazy red and blue lights they were like

3001
01:56:44,310 --> 01:56:41,280
balls of light

3002
01:56:47,669 --> 01:56:44,320
that were going through the clouds at

3003
01:56:51,109 --> 01:56:47,679
i mean it was it looked like ufos

3004
01:56:53,830 --> 01:56:51,119
um but the news said that it was a

3005
01:56:54,950 --> 01:56:53,840
ball lightning that happens when there's

3006
01:56:56,870 --> 01:56:54,960
uh

3007
01:56:58,229 --> 01:56:56,880
earthquakes yeah so it could have been i

3008
01:56:59,510 --> 01:56:58,239
mean that was good enough for me you

3009
01:57:00,790 --> 01:56:59,520
know i was like okay

3010
01:57:02,870 --> 01:57:00,800
but the thing over the ocean that i

3011
01:57:04,629 --> 01:57:02,880
filmed no that was not normal

3012
01:57:06,870 --> 01:57:04,639
yeah that was crazy i would love to see

3013
01:57:08,950 --> 01:57:06,880
that footage and uh

3014
01:57:10,870 --> 01:57:08,960
uh we uh we're gonna take a break right

3015
01:57:12,790 --> 01:57:10,880
here we'll come back and continue

3016
01:57:14,229 --> 01:57:12,800
i want to remind everybody talking about

3017
01:57:17,910 --> 01:57:14,239
computer security

3018
01:57:21,750 --> 01:57:17,920
and what is important is a

3019
01:57:25,270 --> 01:57:21,760
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3020
01:57:26,470 --> 01:57:25,280
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3021
01:57:29,350 --> 01:57:26,480
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3022
01:57:29,990 --> 01:57:29,360
this data is taken on users on various

3023
01:57:32,709 --> 01:57:30,000
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3024
01:57:33,750 --> 01:57:32,719
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3025
01:57:38,629 --> 01:57:33,760
now

3026
01:57:40,310 --> 01:57:38,639
like being spied on by advertisers i

3027
01:57:43,350 --> 01:57:40,320
don't like being spied on by

3028
01:57:45,910 --> 01:57:43,360
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3029
01:57:48,229 --> 01:57:45,920
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3030
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3031
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3033
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3034
01:57:58,550 --> 01:57:57,840
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3035
01:58:01,830 --> 01:57:58,560
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3036
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3038
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3039
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3040
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3041
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3047
01:58:25,109 --> 01:58:22,320
jimmy church going to take a quick break

3048
01:58:26,950 --> 01:58:25,119
we'll be right back more with chad kalec

3049
01:58:29,669 --> 01:58:26,960
discussing his new film

3050
01:58:31,589 --> 01:58:29,679
phantom rider it's releasing worldwide

3051
01:58:33,270 --> 01:58:31,599
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3052
01:58:41,510 --> 01:58:33,280
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3053
01:58:51,589 --> 01:58:49,109
hi everybody on jimmychurchradio.com

3054
01:58:52,629 --> 01:58:51,599
this is kgra digital broadcasting

3055
01:58:56,310 --> 01:58:52,639
station

3056
01:58:58,149 --> 01:58:56,320
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3057
01:59:00,310 --> 01:58:58,159
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3176
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tonight chad kalec

3177
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we are talking about his new film and

3178
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it's called phantom rider it releases

3179
02:04:10,470 --> 02:04:08,400
tomorrow you can go and check it out

3180
02:04:11,510 --> 02:04:10,480
um i've seen it it's absolutely

3181
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incredible

3182
02:04:18,709 --> 02:04:16,000
and uh there are there are more than one

3183
02:04:19,350 --> 02:04:18,719
uh pretty emotional moments in the film

3184
02:04:22,229 --> 02:04:19,360
um

3185
02:04:24,709 --> 02:04:22,239
but uh putting that aside i want to talk

3186
02:04:28,950 --> 02:04:24,719
about the music for a second

3187
02:04:32,390 --> 02:04:28,960
torah torah really that's old school

3188
02:04:36,470 --> 02:04:32,400
man man man i was i and uh

3189
02:04:40,069 --> 02:04:36,480
how how did that happen oh just the song

3190
02:04:43,589 --> 02:04:40,079
you know the the the lyrics really

3191
02:04:46,629 --> 02:04:43,599
kind of just spoke to me i i was i i

3192
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i'm a big uh you know in your itunes on

3193
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your itunes

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does not have itunes or not but you can

3195
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put it on where it just plays a mix and

3196
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match of everything that's in your

3197
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you know i got like you know 700 albums

3198
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or whatever i'm a musician as well too

3199
02:05:00,310 --> 02:04:59,360
and i just had it on mix one day and as

3200
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i was editing

3201
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this torah taurus song came on and the

3202
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whole

3203
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um you know count the lines you've seen

3204
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it and pass you by

3205
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and you know witness the pain they leave

3206
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behind and just all the lyrics to it

3207
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just really spoke to me about this

3208
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journey that we have been on

3209
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and this phantom rider like somewhere um

3210
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you know there there's this threat of

3211
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this person that we don't know who it is

3212
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this thing this this phantom rider that

3213
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is

3214
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always seems to be behind us but we

3215
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can't see him right like i don't know

3216
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who

3217
02:05:34,229 --> 02:05:32,239
hacked my computer i don't like i just

3218
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texted craig and asked him when's the

3219
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last time anything happened with you you

3220
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just wrote me back

3221
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nikki was followed late last night

3222
02:05:41,830 --> 02:05:40,560
blacked out car driveway at 4 30 am this

3223
02:05:43,430 --> 02:05:41,840
morning wow

3224
02:05:44,870 --> 02:05:43,440
there's the phantom rider who is it we

3225
02:05:48,550 --> 02:05:44,880
don't know you know what i mean

3226
02:05:51,430 --> 02:05:48,560
um and it just it just it really just

3227
02:05:51,990 --> 02:05:51,440
spoke to me of what this whole process

3228
02:05:53,669 --> 02:05:52,000
is like

3229
02:05:55,270 --> 02:05:53,679
of always feeling like there's someone

3230
02:05:55,910 --> 02:05:55,280
right behind you but you don't know who

3231
02:05:59,430 --> 02:05:55,920
it is

3232
02:06:02,950 --> 02:05:59,440
and how unnerving that is to not

3233
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know the person that has this ability to

3234
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reach out and touch you whenever they

3235
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want to

3236
02:06:10,149 --> 02:06:08,320
now uh does toratora know that uh

3237
02:06:11,750 --> 02:06:10,159
they're part of the soundtrack

3238
02:06:13,990 --> 02:06:11,760
yeah well we did our publishing deal to

3239
02:06:16,069 --> 02:06:14,000
get their rights to their song right

3240
02:06:17,189 --> 02:06:16,079
personally no we're not but yeah it's

3241
02:06:18,229 --> 02:06:17,199
right

3242
02:06:20,629 --> 02:06:18,239
you do the publishers through the

3243
02:06:21,910 --> 02:06:20,639
publishing they're such a great band i

3244
02:06:24,950 --> 02:06:21,920
think they're out of memphis

3245
02:06:27,189 --> 02:06:24,960
and uh yeah yeah great

3246
02:06:28,629 --> 02:06:27,199
great band but there's that's the other

3247
02:06:29,589 --> 02:06:28,639
part of the movie that i want to talk

3248
02:06:33,270 --> 02:06:29,599
about

3249
02:06:36,310 --> 02:06:33,280
is the the soundtrack and

3250
02:06:39,430 --> 02:06:36,320
and how that is laid out and how that

3251
02:06:42,149 --> 02:06:39,440
uh um involves emotion

3252
02:06:43,750 --> 02:06:42,159
too as well it's a it's a very critical

3253
02:06:44,629 --> 02:06:43,760
part of the way that you put this

3254
02:06:46,629 --> 02:06:44,639
together

3255
02:06:47,669 --> 02:06:46,639
all of that is done with intention i

3256
02:06:49,830 --> 02:06:47,679
would assume

3257
02:06:52,390 --> 02:06:49,840
100 and thank you for pointing that out

3258
02:06:54,629 --> 02:06:52,400
i think people who have

3259
02:06:56,310 --> 02:06:54,639
it's a consistent compliment that i get

3260
02:06:59,669 --> 02:06:56,320
with my work

3261
02:07:02,069 --> 02:06:59,679
since agh you know what i mean so it's

3262
02:07:03,350 --> 02:07:02,079
music to me it's just it's that

3263
02:07:04,629 --> 02:07:03,360
universal language

3264
02:07:06,870 --> 02:07:04,639
i don't care who you are around the

3265
02:07:07,830 --> 02:07:06,880
world it's one of the only things in the

3266
02:07:10,069 --> 02:07:07,840
world

3267
02:07:11,830 --> 02:07:10,079
that can make you smile can make you cry

3268
02:07:14,709 --> 02:07:11,840
can make you physically feel like you

3269
02:07:17,510 --> 02:07:14,719
were at a place when you heard that song

3270
02:07:18,950 --> 02:07:17,520
and i've always viewed it as not folly

3271
02:07:22,550 --> 02:07:18,960
but a voice

3272
02:07:24,870 --> 02:07:22,560
but another you know narration going on

3273
02:07:25,750 --> 02:07:24,880
at that time because in my life there's

3274
02:07:27,109 --> 02:07:25,760
a lot of times

3275
02:07:29,990 --> 02:07:27,119
as a singer and a songwriter and

3276
02:07:32,470 --> 02:07:30,000
musician and just as a person

3277
02:07:33,430 --> 02:07:32,480
you know what i may lack the words when

3278
02:07:35,910 --> 02:07:33,440
i'm speaking

3279
02:07:37,990 --> 02:07:35,920
for some reason they perfectly they're

3280
02:07:41,030 --> 02:07:38,000
perfectly spoken in song

3281
02:07:42,229 --> 02:07:41,040
and um you know there's a song at the

3282
02:07:44,470 --> 02:07:42,239
end of it you know that's

3283
02:07:45,990 --> 02:07:44,480
you know it should be to my father uh

3284
02:07:47,350 --> 02:07:46,000
you know and when i'm asking that kind

3285
02:07:47,830 --> 02:07:47,360
of question are you gonna be a martyr

3286
02:07:49,430 --> 02:07:47,840
for this

3287
02:07:51,189 --> 02:07:49,440
is this what you're gonna let you know

3288
02:07:54,310 --> 02:07:51,199
you can give your life up for this

3289
02:07:55,189 --> 02:07:54,320
you know and um i've just always felt

3290
02:07:57,589 --> 02:07:55,199
like

3291
02:07:58,870 --> 02:07:57,599
music is so very important it's just so

3292
02:08:01,750 --> 02:07:58,880
very important

3293
02:08:03,589 --> 02:08:01,760
and um it's with definite intention and

3294
02:08:05,910 --> 02:08:03,599
a lot of the other music that's in there

3295
02:08:07,990 --> 02:08:05,920
that's there's a there's a lot of great

3296
02:08:11,430 --> 02:08:08,000
musical services that you can

3297
02:08:14,149 --> 02:08:11,440
um buy bits and pieces of music

3298
02:08:15,030 --> 02:08:14,159
uh to work with it and i spend a lot of

3299
02:08:18,790 --> 02:08:15,040
time

3300
02:08:19,430 --> 02:08:18,800
right thing and there's a degree of that

3301
02:08:21,990 --> 02:08:19,440
music that i

3302
02:08:23,510 --> 02:08:22,000
that i wrote that's in there um that i

3303
02:08:25,830 --> 02:08:23,520
played and performed and

3304
02:08:27,589 --> 02:08:25,840
and that's usually my go-to like when

3305
02:08:30,229 --> 02:08:27,599
when i have something that's very

3306
02:08:31,030 --> 02:08:30,239
point specific that i want to drive home

3307
02:08:33,669 --> 02:08:31,040
usually

3308
02:08:34,629 --> 02:08:33,679
i wind up writing and recording it now

3309
02:08:36,950 --> 02:08:34,639
uh there's

3310
02:08:38,470 --> 02:08:36,960
another aspect to this and i point this

3311
02:08:41,189 --> 02:08:38,480
out a lot because

3312
02:08:42,629 --> 02:08:41,199
um i live in hollywood i live in burbank

3313
02:08:45,189 --> 02:08:42,639
everybody here is part of the film

3314
02:08:47,830 --> 02:08:45,199
industry everybody's a friggin critic

3315
02:08:50,550 --> 02:08:47,840
uh here in california when you go to the

3316
02:08:53,030 --> 02:08:50,560
movies you go to the theater um

3317
02:08:54,709 --> 02:08:53,040
anywhere else in the country the film

3318
02:08:57,589 --> 02:08:54,719
ends everybody gets up and leaves

3319
02:08:58,149 --> 02:08:57,599
not not in los angeles people will sit

3320
02:09:13,189 --> 02:08:58,159
and

3321
02:09:15,990 --> 02:09:13,199
the show

3322
02:09:16,629 --> 02:09:16,000
i do talk about their approach to

3323
02:09:19,350 --> 02:09:16,639
editing

3324
02:09:20,310 --> 02:09:19,360
and cinematography you took things to a

3325
02:09:23,430 --> 02:09:20,320
whole nother level

3326
02:09:25,270 --> 02:09:23,440
even for you because in in past

3327
02:09:28,470 --> 02:09:25,280
productions it's always

3328
02:09:29,270 --> 02:09:28,480
excelled uh this has definitely been

3329
02:09:31,270 --> 02:09:29,280
taken to

3330
02:09:32,550 --> 02:09:31,280
a new level is it because you had more

3331
02:09:35,350 --> 02:09:32,560
time on your hands

3332
02:09:37,189 --> 02:09:35,360
or was this film more important to you

3333
02:09:40,310 --> 02:09:37,199
including the animation that is

3334
02:09:42,870 --> 02:09:40,320
is pretty pretty cool too as well yeah i

3335
02:09:44,229 --> 02:09:42,880
i think the animation was a natural

3336
02:09:46,390 --> 02:09:44,239
progression i've been working really

3337
02:09:48,310 --> 02:09:46,400
hard on my animation skills

3338
02:09:49,910 --> 02:09:48,320
that's usually the one thing if we need

3339
02:09:52,470 --> 02:09:49,920
it in the past

3340
02:09:54,149 --> 02:09:52,480
if we needed it because i'm not an

3341
02:09:54,870 --> 02:09:54,159
animator which i mean i've become one

3342
02:09:55,910 --> 02:09:54,880
now

3343
02:09:57,990 --> 02:09:55,920
that's one of the things that we would

3344
02:09:59,510 --> 02:09:58,000
reach out for somebody else to do

3345
02:10:01,350 --> 02:09:59,520
and it was just something that i've

3346
02:10:03,270 --> 02:10:01,360
really been working hard on

3347
02:10:05,109 --> 02:10:03,280
to understand the software and i've

3348
02:10:06,470 --> 02:10:05,119
gotten to a point now where where i do

3349
02:10:08,149 --> 02:10:06,480
feel as though i'm at a professional

3350
02:10:09,669 --> 02:10:08,159
level with animation now

3351
02:10:11,910 --> 02:10:09,679
and it was just another it's just

3352
02:10:12,709 --> 02:10:11,920
another uh another tool to tell the

3353
02:10:16,310 --> 02:10:12,719
story

3354
02:10:19,750 --> 02:10:16,320
um but with this i really wanted it

3355
02:10:21,750 --> 02:10:19,760
to mirror our lives at the time where

3356
02:10:23,030 --> 02:10:21,760
you know there's a tempo to this film

3357
02:10:26,149 --> 02:10:23,040
when you watch it

3358
02:10:27,030 --> 02:10:26,159
and it feels like at times you're almost

3359
02:10:28,390 --> 02:10:27,040
running

3360
02:10:30,310 --> 02:10:28,400
and then at times it feels like at the

3361
02:10:32,709 --> 02:10:30,320
very end it feels like you know

3362
02:10:33,510 --> 02:10:32,719
you're stopping and and you're really in

3363
02:10:35,430 --> 02:10:33,520
deep thought

3364
02:10:36,550 --> 02:10:35,440
you know down to the moment where you

3365
02:10:39,030 --> 02:10:36,560
you see me

3366
02:10:39,669 --> 02:10:39,040
you know having a cigarette when i'm in

3367
02:10:41,750 --> 02:10:39,679
deep thought

3368
02:10:43,430 --> 02:10:41,760
kind of about what i do from here and

3369
02:10:45,189 --> 02:10:43,440
there's not a word that's said and it

3370
02:10:46,629 --> 02:10:45,199
goes to a black and white

3371
02:10:48,149 --> 02:10:46,639
but there's probably more said in those

3372
02:10:48,550 --> 02:10:48,159
30 seconds than anything else in the

3373
02:10:51,910 --> 02:10:48,560
film

3374
02:10:54,229 --> 02:10:51,920
that's right well there is uh

3375
02:10:55,030 --> 02:10:54,239
uh for somebody that's going to watch

3376
02:10:58,229 --> 02:10:55,040
this is

3377
02:11:01,030 --> 02:10:58,239
certainly from the ufo background um

3378
02:11:02,950 --> 02:11:01,040
there is all of the the facts and the

3379
02:11:05,589 --> 02:11:02,960
things and the investigation

3380
02:11:07,350 --> 02:11:05,599
and and not only things to listen to but

3381
02:11:08,229 --> 02:11:07,360
things to look at in the film you get

3382
02:11:12,229 --> 02:11:08,239
that

3383
02:11:13,750 --> 02:11:12,239
but it's more about your journey

3384
02:11:16,790 --> 02:11:13,760
that's that's what is happening here

3385
02:11:19,510 --> 02:11:16,800
this is probably the most personal film

3386
02:11:21,030 --> 02:11:19,520
uh you've ever made uh including agh

3387
02:11:22,950 --> 02:11:21,040
going back to

3388
02:11:24,390 --> 02:11:22,960
a film that was directly about you and

3389
02:11:26,069 --> 02:11:24,400
your family

3390
02:11:27,910 --> 02:11:26,079
well the camera look man it's in my

3391
02:11:30,310 --> 02:11:27,920
house i mean you're hearing my wife's

3392
02:11:31,669 --> 02:11:30,320
voice when she's when i open the door

3393
02:11:33,189 --> 02:11:31,679
and you'll see what there's something

3394
02:11:33,669 --> 02:11:33,199
that went on outside here over and over

3395
02:11:35,350 --> 02:11:33,679
again

3396
02:11:37,030 --> 02:11:35,360
and she's too terrified to go and she's

3397
02:11:37,589 --> 02:11:37,040
like listen you go first i'm not doing

3398
02:11:38,870 --> 02:11:37,599
this

3399
02:11:40,950 --> 02:11:38,880
you know what i mean like you're you're

3400
02:11:43,270 --> 02:11:40,960
seeing those real moments

3401
02:11:45,109 --> 02:11:43,280
of what that's like and in all of my

3402
02:11:48,709 --> 02:11:45,119
films what i always think is

3403
02:11:51,430 --> 02:11:48,719
is more fascinating than anything

3404
02:11:53,109 --> 02:11:51,440
as far as paranormal is the human story

3405
02:11:55,189 --> 02:11:53,119
and the human side to it

3406
02:11:57,669 --> 02:11:55,199
uh that's what makes these things matter

3407
02:11:58,390 --> 02:11:57,679
you know what what do they do to our

3408
02:11:59,990 --> 02:11:58,400
lives

3409
02:12:01,870 --> 02:12:00,000
well let me ask you let me ask you about

3410
02:12:03,589 --> 02:12:01,880
your wife for a second because i think

3411
02:12:06,950 --> 02:12:03,599
unintentionally

3412
02:12:07,589 --> 02:12:06,960
uh she becomes uh a part of the focus of

3413
02:12:09,830 --> 02:12:07,599
the film

3414
02:12:11,270 --> 02:12:09,840
a couple of times yeah is she okay with

3415
02:12:13,189 --> 02:12:11,280
that

3416
02:12:15,189 --> 02:12:13,199
yeah i mean she's okay with it because i

3417
02:12:15,910 --> 02:12:15,199
mean her her thing has always been she's

3418
02:12:19,350 --> 02:12:15,920
always

3419
02:12:22,790 --> 02:12:19,360
actually tried to avoid my work um

3420
02:12:26,310 --> 02:12:22,800
but she also understands the importance

3421
02:12:29,189 --> 02:12:26,320
of honesty you know this happened

3422
02:12:29,990 --> 02:12:29,199
and she would never stop me you know

3423
02:12:31,589 --> 02:12:30,000
from

3424
02:12:33,109 --> 02:12:31,599
if it's surreal when it happened she

3425
02:12:37,030 --> 02:12:33,119
would never say don't show it

3426
02:12:40,229 --> 02:12:37,040
you know um because my films

3427
02:12:41,669 --> 02:12:40,239
are personal they do have a tendency to

3428
02:12:42,709 --> 02:12:41,679
throw people in them at times that

3429
02:12:45,030 --> 02:12:42,719
aren't even really

3430
02:12:45,830 --> 02:12:45,040
realized that they were in them you know

3431
02:12:52,229 --> 02:12:45,840
um

3432
02:12:53,030 --> 02:12:52,239
uh again there's no spoilers going on

3433
02:12:57,030 --> 02:12:53,040
here

3434
02:12:59,030 --> 02:12:57,040
getting into the details

3435
02:13:00,470 --> 02:12:59,040
but uh you and your wife get into a

3436
02:13:05,109 --> 02:13:00,480
fight yeah

3437
02:13:08,709 --> 02:13:05,119
and if if i was if this was my film

3438
02:13:11,990 --> 02:13:08,719
and that sort of personal

3439
02:13:15,589 --> 02:13:12,000
exposure would be there for rita and i

3440
02:13:17,750 --> 02:13:15,599
there is no way that she would have

3441
02:13:19,750 --> 02:13:17,760
that part of our personal lives out

3442
02:13:20,470 --> 02:13:19,760
there in the public it would not happen

3443
02:13:23,589 --> 02:13:20,480
i would even

3444
02:13:26,149 --> 02:13:23,599
ask rita if it would be okay it's

3445
02:13:27,589 --> 02:13:26,159
like it's it's it's something that stays

3446
02:13:30,390 --> 02:13:27,599
inside of the house

3447
02:13:31,510 --> 02:13:30,400
you chose to have that very personal

3448
02:13:34,069 --> 02:13:31,520
moment

3449
02:13:35,750 --> 02:13:34,079
out there did she fight you on that or

3450
02:13:38,629 --> 02:13:35,760
was she okay

3451
02:13:39,270 --> 02:13:38,639
no i you know what we were both sad it

3452
02:13:43,669 --> 02:13:39,280
sucks

3453
02:13:49,189 --> 02:13:46,950
i am her biggest fan i love

3454
02:13:50,709 --> 02:13:49,199
that girl like i i don't know any other

3455
02:13:51,350 --> 02:13:50,719
girl on this earth that would put up

3456
02:13:53,830 --> 02:13:51,360
with me

3457
02:13:55,830 --> 02:13:53,840
and what and what i've drug her through

3458
02:13:56,950 --> 02:13:55,840
over the last 25 years that we've been

3459
02:14:00,390 --> 02:13:56,960
together

3460
02:14:02,950 --> 02:14:00,400
um listening to us and we

3461
02:14:04,870 --> 02:14:02,960
what's funny is that argument we were

3462
02:14:07,990 --> 02:14:04,880
arguing about

3463
02:14:08,790 --> 02:14:08,000
i wanted to spend time with her on this

3464
02:14:11,990 --> 02:14:08,800
day

3465
02:14:16,229 --> 02:14:12,000
and we got our schedules backwards

3466
02:14:19,589 --> 02:14:16,239
and i couldn't so i was now upset

3467
02:14:20,790 --> 02:14:19,599
and i i was i was being a baby and i was

3468
02:14:22,390 --> 02:14:20,800
pissed

3469
02:14:23,510 --> 02:14:22,400
and it was because i wanted to be with

3470
02:14:24,470 --> 02:14:23,520
her though i wanted to spend time with

3471
02:14:28,310 --> 02:14:24,480
her you know

3472
02:14:29,910 --> 02:14:28,320
and we talked about it and i said to her

3473
02:14:31,830 --> 02:14:29,920
you know what's important in this scene

3474
02:14:34,229 --> 02:14:31,840
is we're showing that

3475
02:14:35,589 --> 02:14:34,239
my phone again someone had complete

3476
02:14:37,589 --> 02:14:35,599
control of it

3477
02:14:38,709 --> 02:14:37,599
and where i was think where it was

3478
02:14:41,270 --> 02:14:38,719
located

3479
02:14:41,750 --> 02:14:41,280
was across the room and someone turned

3480
02:14:45,270 --> 02:14:41,760
on

3481
02:14:46,790 --> 02:14:45,280
the wave recorder remotely so

3482
02:14:49,350 --> 02:14:46,800
you can hear the distance between where

3483
02:14:51,030 --> 02:14:49,360
she's at where am i in the recording

3484
02:14:52,470 --> 02:14:51,040
and what i was showing is that this was

3485
02:14:55,830 --> 02:14:52,480
happening that this

3486
02:14:57,189 --> 02:14:55,840
was really happening and after we had

3487
02:14:58,470 --> 02:14:57,199
gotten that fight when i walked back

3488
02:14:59,270 --> 02:14:58,480
over and i saw it and i sat down i was

3489
02:15:02,790 --> 02:14:59,280
like what

3490
02:15:04,310 --> 02:15:02,800
oh my god like i was like is is somebody

3491
02:15:05,990 --> 02:15:04,320
is somebody remotely controlling my

3492
02:15:07,750 --> 02:15:06,000
phone for a reason are they recording

3493
02:15:08,149 --> 02:15:07,760
this to try to like use it against me or

3494
02:15:09,990 --> 02:15:08,159
something

3495
02:15:12,149 --> 02:15:10,000
or like i didn't know you don't know why

3496
02:15:14,709 --> 02:15:12,159
this stuff happens and it'll sing you

3497
02:15:15,669 --> 02:15:14,719
like sitting right down a rabbit hole um

3498
02:15:17,669 --> 02:15:15,679
but when it was done

3499
02:15:18,950 --> 02:15:17,679
i was like look it's really important to

3500
02:15:21,350 --> 02:15:18,960
me that i

3501
02:15:23,830 --> 02:15:21,360
show that this stuff is really happening

3502
02:15:26,310 --> 02:15:23,840
and i said the content of it to me

3503
02:15:27,189 --> 02:15:26,320
i can stand behind that i'm i'm not i've

3504
02:15:31,189 --> 02:15:27,199
never ever

3505
02:15:34,069 --> 02:15:31,199
ever tried to be anything that i'm not

3506
02:15:35,030 --> 02:15:34,079
you know i mean like anybody else in the

3507
02:15:37,030 --> 02:15:35,040
world i have

3508
02:15:39,109 --> 02:15:37,040
great parts of my personality and i have

3509
02:15:42,310 --> 02:15:39,119
difficult parts of my personality

3510
02:15:42,950 --> 02:15:42,320
and at the end of the day we both felt

3511
02:15:46,069 --> 02:15:42,960
like

3512
02:15:48,229 --> 02:15:46,079
this

3513
02:15:49,510 --> 02:15:48,239
to show what's going on here then i'm

3514
02:15:51,589 --> 02:15:49,520
okay with it

3515
02:15:54,229 --> 02:15:51,599
um of course it's not comfortable of

3516
02:15:57,109 --> 02:15:54,239
course i wish it wouldn't have happened

3517
02:15:57,750 --> 02:15:57,119
but it happened and i can't ask other

3518
02:16:02,310 --> 02:15:57,760
people

3519
02:16:04,550 --> 02:16:02,320
life as a documentarian

3520
02:16:06,069 --> 02:16:04,560
i can't grill them about being honest

3521
02:16:08,550 --> 02:16:06,079
and putting it all on the table

3522
02:16:09,990 --> 02:16:08,560
if i'm not willing to do so and that's

3523
02:16:10,950 --> 02:16:10,000
always one of the most difficult parts

3524
02:16:12,629 --> 02:16:10,960
about being

3525
02:16:14,870 --> 02:16:12,639
a documentarian that includes his own

3526
02:16:16,950 --> 02:16:14,880
life it has to be

3527
02:16:18,069 --> 02:16:16,960
it all has to be on the same level i

3528
02:16:20,870 --> 02:16:18,079
can't treat myself

3529
02:16:21,589 --> 02:16:20,880
with baby gloves and then roast everyone

3530
02:16:25,430 --> 02:16:21,599
you know

3531
02:16:27,350 --> 02:16:25,440
no there there is a moment uh

3532
02:16:29,030 --> 02:16:27,360
i should say there are moments in this

3533
02:16:32,389 --> 02:16:29,040
film as things

3534
02:16:34,230 --> 02:16:32,399
are layered on top of each other uh as

3535
02:16:36,870 --> 02:16:34,240
you're going through this journey

3536
02:16:38,629 --> 02:16:36,880
that as a viewer of the film you have to

3537
02:16:40,549 --> 02:16:38,639
step back and go

3538
02:16:42,469 --> 02:16:40,559
he's got to be questioning his own

3539
02:16:46,150 --> 02:16:42,479
sanity at this point oh yeah

3540
02:16:48,309 --> 02:16:46,160
right so many times so many times i mean

3541
02:16:50,709 --> 02:16:48,319
that's you know i said to laura one

3542
02:16:55,030 --> 02:16:50,719
night we were talking i said

3543
02:16:57,750 --> 02:16:55,040
do you think anybody that is going crazy

3544
02:16:58,709 --> 02:16:57,760
really believes they're going crazy like

3545
02:17:00,230 --> 02:16:58,719
do they know it

3546
02:17:01,750 --> 02:17:00,240
like you because you wouldn't right

3547
02:17:04,469 --> 02:17:01,760
right if you wouldn't know

3548
02:17:04,950 --> 02:17:04,479
no it's it's your reality right that's

3549
02:17:06,709 --> 02:17:04,960
it

3550
02:17:09,669 --> 02:17:06,719
you wouldn't know that would make you

3551
02:17:12,150 --> 02:17:09,679
not crazy if you know you're going crazy

3552
02:17:13,110 --> 02:17:12,160
and i'm just like you know there's

3553
02:17:16,070 --> 02:17:13,120
there's times where

3554
02:17:17,830 --> 02:17:16,080
yeah it was it's been one of the hardest

3555
02:17:19,669 --> 02:17:17,840
parts of this whole thing

3556
02:17:21,509 --> 02:17:19,679
and then when i tell the story in the

3557
02:17:25,190 --> 02:17:21,519
film i'm like

3558
02:17:27,589 --> 02:17:25,200
does this just seem just bad

3559
02:17:28,629 --> 02:17:27,599
you know like right there's someone to

3560
02:17:31,110 --> 02:17:28,639
look at this and go dude you

3561
02:17:32,150 --> 02:17:31,120
are a lunatic you know what i mean and

3562
02:17:34,070 --> 02:17:32,160
and i'm like well

3563
02:17:36,070 --> 02:17:34,080
am i a lunatic and then craig is

3564
02:17:38,870 --> 02:17:36,080
simultaneously becoming a lunatic

3565
02:17:39,589 --> 02:17:38,880
we're both going crazy at the same time

3566
02:17:41,509 --> 02:17:39,599
you know but

3567
02:17:43,349 --> 02:17:41,519
but no you get to the point where with

3568
02:17:44,950 --> 02:17:43,359
me i was like okay well let me look at

3569
02:17:48,150 --> 02:17:44,960
all the other aspects of my life

3570
02:17:49,190 --> 02:17:48,160
nope normal there so i can't be going

3571
02:17:52,309 --> 02:17:49,200
crazy about just

3572
02:17:54,950 --> 02:17:52,319
ufos you know so

3573
02:17:56,150 --> 02:17:54,960
yeah it's very hard it's very hard um

3574
02:17:59,830 --> 02:17:56,160
but i just i

3575
02:18:00,790 --> 02:17:59,840
i i go back to the same thing i think no

3576
02:18:03,110 --> 02:18:00,800
matter

3577
02:18:04,469 --> 02:18:03,120
what you're doing in life or filmmaking

3578
02:18:06,709 --> 02:18:04,479
honesty wins

3579
02:18:08,469 --> 02:18:06,719
people could smell it they could see it

3580
02:18:10,469 --> 02:18:08,479
you know when someone's being fake

3581
02:18:12,150 --> 02:18:10,479
you know when someone's not you know

3582
02:18:15,509 --> 02:18:12,160
that's why i never spend a lot of

3583
02:18:18,230 --> 02:18:15,519
time like trying to um

3584
02:18:19,509 --> 02:18:18,240
sell anybody on me or what i'm doing or

3585
02:18:21,270 --> 02:18:19,519
whatever and these things like

3586
02:18:22,709 --> 02:18:21,280
you can see what's real and what's not

3587
02:18:24,870 --> 02:18:22,719
i'm a firm believer in that

3588
02:18:26,309 --> 02:18:24,880
you can see when people know they're

3589
02:18:28,070 --> 02:18:26,319
wrong or they know they're right when

3590
02:18:30,950 --> 02:18:28,080
they know they're lying or

3591
02:18:31,669 --> 02:18:30,960
and so as long as you're being honest i

3592
02:18:34,070 --> 02:18:31,679
think that's

3593
02:18:35,509 --> 02:18:34,080
like the guideline to go on and uh

3594
02:18:38,230 --> 02:18:35,519
thankfully

3595
02:18:39,990 --> 02:18:38,240
i'm uh you know i'm a freak and i keep

3596
02:18:41,349 --> 02:18:40,000
cameras everywhere and constantly

3597
02:18:43,349 --> 02:18:41,359
filming so i've been able to capture

3598
02:18:46,469 --> 02:18:43,359
some of these very difficult things

3599
02:18:48,790 --> 02:18:46,479
to capture so people could see you know

3600
02:18:50,709 --> 02:18:48,800
what's going on have you had a chance to

3601
02:18:53,110 --> 02:18:50,719
take uh

3602
02:18:54,790 --> 02:18:53,120
do you do the normal things like an

3603
02:18:56,709 --> 02:18:54,800
album production you know you get to the

3604
02:18:58,790 --> 02:18:56,719
end of the album and you're like man

3605
02:19:00,629 --> 02:18:58,800
this is our last one this is just too

3606
02:19:01,990 --> 02:19:00,639
much work you know but then you take

3607
02:19:04,629 --> 02:19:02,000
some time off

3608
02:19:06,790 --> 02:19:04,639
and you know like okay i'm ready for a a

3609
02:19:08,709 --> 02:19:06,800
world tour right is it the same thing

3610
02:19:09,589 --> 02:19:08,719
with you do you allow yourself to take a

3611
02:19:12,709 --> 02:19:09,599
breath in between

3612
02:19:14,790 --> 02:19:12,719
films and then you know regroup and then

3613
02:19:15,910 --> 02:19:14,800
and get your energy back to do the next

3614
02:19:19,110 --> 02:19:15,920
one because it's

3615
02:19:24,309 --> 02:19:19,120
it's so much work yeah man well listen

3616
02:19:26,629 --> 02:19:24,319
i in 2016

3617
02:19:27,509 --> 02:19:26,639
the end of 2016 i put out a blood red

3618
02:19:29,750 --> 02:19:27,519
sky

3619
02:19:30,709 --> 02:19:29,760
then sir no face and then two face the

3620
02:19:32,549 --> 02:19:30,719
gray

3621
02:19:35,429 --> 02:19:32,559
then phantom rider and i finish it up

3622
02:19:38,150 --> 02:19:35,439
another film caught 74 minutes

3623
02:19:39,190 --> 02:19:38,160
i'm going to take a break after this i

3624
02:19:40,389 --> 02:19:39,200
mean i'm about a month away from

3625
02:19:42,469 --> 02:19:40,399
finishing the other one up

3626
02:19:44,469 --> 02:19:42,479
and then i'm going to take a good like a

3627
02:19:46,870 --> 02:19:44,479
good six month break and really just

3628
02:19:48,230 --> 02:19:46,880
focus on my podcast and

3629
02:19:50,230 --> 02:19:48,240
hopefully getting back out there doing

3630
02:19:51,990 --> 02:19:50,240
live events again i miss

3631
02:19:53,990 --> 02:19:52,000
i'm a big tour you know this i tour

3632
02:19:55,830 --> 02:19:54,000
constantly and now let's be able to do

3633
02:19:58,630 --> 02:19:55,840
that because of coving you know

3634
02:19:59,590 --> 02:19:58,640
so i really miss the people that support

3635
02:20:03,910 --> 02:19:59,600
me

3636
02:20:06,550 --> 02:20:03,920
um but yeah i i definitely

3637
02:20:08,070 --> 02:20:06,560
i am that way in the sense that i get

3638
02:20:10,710 --> 02:20:08,080
burnt out and i'm like man

3639
02:20:11,990 --> 02:20:10,720
i'm taking off five years ago you know

3640
02:20:15,510 --> 02:20:12,000
but a week later

3641
02:20:17,990 --> 02:20:15,520
a week later my mind will start ticking

3642
02:20:20,150 --> 02:20:18,000
how do you how do you um i've listened

3643
02:20:23,270 --> 02:20:20,160
to some of your podcasts

3644
02:20:23,910 --> 02:20:23,280
and what i have found interesting it's

3645
02:20:25,830 --> 02:20:23,920
almost

3646
02:20:29,190 --> 02:20:25,840
like and don't take this the wrong way

3647
02:20:32,389 --> 02:20:29,200
okay yeah it's two different people

3648
02:20:34,070 --> 02:20:32,399
my podcast is yeah the the person that

3649
02:20:37,349 --> 02:20:34,080
i'm talking to right now

3650
02:20:40,389 --> 02:20:37,359
and the approach to the podcast

3651
02:20:43,830 --> 02:20:40,399
oh yeah it's two different people

3652
02:20:46,550 --> 02:20:43,840
the podcast is like

3653
02:20:47,429 --> 02:20:46,560
ultra ultra personal and like you're

3654
02:20:50,070 --> 02:20:47,439
also

3655
02:20:50,630 --> 02:20:50,080
how do i say this right you sound like a

3656
02:20:54,230 --> 02:20:50,640
smooth

3657
02:20:58,230 --> 02:20:56,950
you know i mean it it it is because i

3658
02:21:00,469 --> 02:20:58,240
know you personally i

3659
02:21:02,309 --> 02:21:00,479
know what your personality is like and

3660
02:21:05,349 --> 02:21:02,319
and right now this conversation

3661
02:21:08,790 --> 02:21:05,359
is chad kalec and then you listen to

3662
02:21:11,830 --> 02:21:08,800
the podcast it's great but it's

3663
02:21:13,670 --> 02:21:11,840
it's like do you approach it differently

3664
02:21:17,190 --> 02:21:13,680
well yeah i'm not talking to anybody

3665
02:21:19,590 --> 02:21:17,200
it's a solo podcast so on my podcast

3666
02:21:20,630 --> 02:21:19,600
um i mean i've had i've had craig on a

3667
02:21:22,070 --> 02:21:20,640
couple times

3668
02:21:24,230 --> 02:21:22,080
but it's a storytelling it's like paul

3669
02:21:25,349 --> 02:21:24,240
harvey right it's like a storytelling

3670
02:21:28,070 --> 02:21:25,359
podcast

3671
02:21:29,590 --> 02:21:28,080
so i'll pick out whatever the subject is

3672
02:21:31,270 --> 02:21:29,600
that we're talking about

3673
02:21:34,230 --> 02:21:31,280
and i'll share my thoughts and feelings

3674
02:21:36,790 --> 02:21:34,240
on it and then i'll relate it to a story

3675
02:21:39,030 --> 02:21:36,800
in my life that basically developed my

3676
02:21:42,230 --> 02:21:39,040
thoughts and feelings about that topic

3677
02:21:43,349 --> 02:21:42,240
uh so i i'm storytelling in the podcast

3678
02:21:45,429 --> 02:21:43,359
which is very different than obviously

3679
02:21:45,830 --> 02:21:45,439
you and i riffing back and forth right

3680
02:21:48,550 --> 02:21:45,840
right

3681
02:21:49,349 --> 02:21:48,560
and and the uh your approach to

3682
02:21:52,389 --> 02:21:49,359
filmmaking

3683
02:21:55,910 --> 02:21:52,399
and the subject matter is

3684
02:21:59,030 --> 02:21:55,920
uh gorilla it's gonzo it's edgy

3685
02:22:02,309 --> 02:21:59,040
right yeah and it's in its visuals

3686
02:22:05,349 --> 02:22:02,319
as well as the stories but the podcast

3687
02:22:06,630 --> 02:22:05,359
is is pretty smooth thank you i really

3688
02:22:07,670 --> 02:22:06,640
appreciate that it's

3689
02:22:09,750 --> 02:22:07,680
for those of you that don't know it's

3690
02:22:10,870 --> 02:22:09,760
called the uh uh the inner crowded room

3691
02:22:13,830 --> 02:22:10,880
podcast

3692
02:22:15,990 --> 02:22:13,840
um this week i i started out just to

3693
02:22:18,710 --> 02:22:16,000
test the waters to see

3694
02:22:21,110 --> 02:22:18,720
if anybody wanted or or would like the

3695
02:22:23,190 --> 02:22:21,120
idea of a paul harvey type storytelling

3696
02:22:24,150 --> 02:22:23,200
podcast so i just started out just on

3697
02:22:26,950 --> 02:22:24,160
youtube

3698
02:22:28,790 --> 02:22:26,960
um so this uh i just last week got it

3699
02:22:29,830 --> 02:22:28,800
signed up for libsyn so it's fixing to

3700
02:22:33,110 --> 02:22:29,840
go out to

3701
02:22:34,630 --> 02:22:33,120
all the podcasting places here very soon

3702
02:22:36,309 --> 02:22:34,640
but in the meantime you can go to my

3703
02:22:39,670 --> 02:22:36,319
youtube page at uh

3704
02:22:41,590 --> 02:22:39,680
youtube.com forward slash agh chad

3705
02:22:43,190 --> 02:22:41,600
and then just uh subscribe there there's

3706
02:22:45,590 --> 02:22:43,200
like 113

3707
02:22:47,349 --> 02:22:45,600
episodes of the crowd room podcast and

3708
02:22:47,990 --> 02:22:47,359
like i said yeah it's uh i'm glad you

3709
02:22:49,190 --> 02:22:48,000
like i'm glad

3710
02:22:51,590 --> 02:22:49,200
you know you listen to it that's very

3711
02:22:53,270 --> 02:22:51,600
cool man um because i'm a big fan of

3712
02:22:55,270 --> 02:22:53,280
yours too obviously

3713
02:22:56,550 --> 02:22:55,280
wow so that's awesome but yeah it's a

3714
02:22:58,550 --> 02:22:56,560
storyteller's podcast

3715
02:23:00,230 --> 02:22:58,560
if you can remember paul harvey back in

3716
02:23:02,550 --> 02:23:00,240
the day yep who told these

3717
02:23:03,429 --> 02:23:02,560
one of the best storytellers ever in

3718
02:23:05,190 --> 02:23:03,439
paul harvey

3719
02:23:06,950 --> 02:23:05,200
who would just leave my you know leave

3720
02:23:10,070 --> 02:23:06,960
us on the edge waiting to hear back from

3721
02:23:13,830 --> 02:23:10,080
baby can you help with the puppy um

3722
02:23:14,550 --> 02:23:13,840
that's okay no it's okay i'm fully

3723
02:23:17,349 --> 02:23:14,560
digging it

3724
02:23:17,990 --> 02:23:17,359
um so yeah so i wanted to do this

3725
02:23:20,870 --> 02:23:18,000
storytelling

3726
02:23:21,429 --> 02:23:20,880
podcast because i get asked so much

3727
02:23:28,389 --> 02:23:21,439
about

3728
02:23:29,910 --> 02:23:28,399
touring and

3729
02:23:31,990 --> 02:23:29,920
playing with the different bands that i

3730
02:23:33,830 --> 02:23:32,000
played with and and so i thought

3731
02:23:35,990 --> 02:23:33,840
this would be a cool way to just tell

3732
02:23:38,710 --> 02:23:36,000
those stories in detail

3733
02:23:39,670 --> 02:23:38,720
and not feel rushed and have no time

3734
02:23:42,790 --> 02:23:39,680
limits

3735
02:23:44,870 --> 02:23:42,800
and i mean it grew to like 10 000

3736
02:23:46,070 --> 02:23:44,880
listeners really fast and i was like oh

3737
02:23:47,590 --> 02:23:46,080
that's super cool

3738
02:23:49,429 --> 02:23:47,600
um and i love doing it i love

3739
02:23:50,790 --> 02:23:49,439
storytelling that's why

3740
02:23:53,510 --> 02:23:50,800
because it's all the same man whether

3741
02:23:56,550 --> 02:23:53,520
you're doing a podcast or a movie

3742
02:23:59,670 --> 02:23:56,560
or music you're telling stories

3743
02:24:02,710 --> 02:23:59,680
you know and i like storytelling

3744
02:24:05,990 --> 02:24:02,720
now how are you going to

3745
02:24:07,590 --> 02:24:06,000
approach part four i mean that's what

3746
02:24:09,190 --> 02:24:07,600
you know that's what's on everybody's

3747
02:24:11,830 --> 02:24:09,200
mind because uh

3748
02:24:12,469 --> 02:24:11,840
the films have evolved they have

3749
02:24:13,910 --> 02:24:12,479
progressed

3750
02:24:15,510 --> 02:24:13,920
they all overlapped they're all part of

3751
02:24:18,710 --> 02:24:15,520
the same story

3752
02:24:19,349 --> 02:24:18,720
now going on for years uh how are you

3753
02:24:23,429 --> 02:24:19,359
going to approach

3754
02:24:26,150 --> 02:24:23,439
part four well i got to go there

3755
02:24:27,910 --> 02:24:26,160
that's part of it there's a lot more

3756
02:24:29,190 --> 02:24:27,920
that nobody knows right now

3757
02:24:33,110 --> 02:24:29,200
intentionally

3758
02:24:36,230 --> 02:24:33,120
that i haven't let out to

3759
02:24:37,590 --> 02:24:36,240
the tattoo face man there's a lot more

3760
02:24:40,790 --> 02:24:37,600
to that story

3761
02:24:41,990 --> 02:24:40,800
and also there's something that happens

3762
02:24:43,429 --> 02:24:42,000
at the end of the film i don't want to

3763
02:24:44,950 --> 02:24:43,439
give it away because it is a snow yeah

3764
02:24:47,190 --> 02:24:44,960
don't don't don't there's a question

3765
02:24:50,469 --> 02:24:47,200
that you saw that's posed to me

3766
02:24:51,510 --> 02:24:50,479
right and i would have to go to

3767
02:24:54,309 --> 02:24:51,520
australia

3768
02:24:55,510 --> 02:24:54,319
to do this thing that's pushed that's

3769
02:24:59,750 --> 02:24:55,520
presented to me

3770
02:25:01,349 --> 02:24:59,760
um and i also think

3771
02:25:02,950 --> 02:25:01,359
that there's a way that i have to do it

3772
02:25:04,950 --> 02:25:02,960
though because i do

3773
02:25:06,469 --> 02:25:04,960
want to knock on the government's doors

3774
02:25:09,270 --> 02:25:06,479
what i found really interesting

3775
02:25:09,990 --> 02:25:09,280
about this whole process is you would

3776
02:25:11,750 --> 02:25:10,000
think right away

3777
02:25:15,030 --> 02:25:11,760
when i came out when i first came out

3778
02:25:18,230 --> 02:25:15,040
and said the australian government

3779
02:25:20,150 --> 02:25:18,240
sanctioned paranormal investigation

3780
02:25:22,070 --> 02:25:20,160
where they sent this ghost hunter in and

3781
02:25:23,590 --> 02:25:22,080
he found a ghost

3782
02:25:25,429 --> 02:25:23,600
you would think that the first thing

3783
02:25:27,429 --> 02:25:25,439
they would have done is said no we did

3784
02:25:29,670 --> 02:25:27,439
this dude was crazy whatever

3785
02:25:30,469 --> 02:25:29,680
never did never did you get a hold of us

3786
02:25:33,349 --> 02:25:30,479
one time

3787
02:25:34,870 --> 02:25:33,359
and all they said was uh can you not use

3788
02:25:37,030 --> 02:25:34,880
our names in the emails

3789
02:25:38,710 --> 02:25:37,040
we're the president we're cool with i'm

3790
02:25:39,830 --> 02:25:38,720
like you're cool with the content but

3791
02:25:42,309 --> 02:25:39,840
not the names

3792
02:25:43,030 --> 02:25:42,319
like there is a reason why they were

3793
02:25:45,830 --> 02:25:43,040
completely

3794
02:25:46,630 --> 02:25:45,840
fine with us going out and doing this

3795
02:25:47,830 --> 02:25:46,640
and i don't know

3796
02:25:49,990 --> 02:25:47,840
i'm not saying i know what that reason

3797
02:25:51,429 --> 02:25:50,000
is yet but there is a reason

3798
02:25:53,750 --> 02:25:51,439
everything about what they did with

3799
02:25:56,230 --> 02:25:53,760
craig was super bizarre

3800
02:25:57,030 --> 02:25:56,240
right now to offering him money telling

3801
02:25:59,590 --> 02:25:57,040
him that they would

3802
02:26:01,190 --> 02:25:59,600
you know host these uh you know events

3803
02:26:04,150 --> 02:26:01,200
that were going to be there

3804
02:26:05,830 --> 02:26:04,160
um having him investigate for two years

3805
02:26:06,950 --> 02:26:05,840
you know guys spend two years at a place

3806
02:26:09,510 --> 02:26:06,960
to say it's on it

3807
02:26:10,950 --> 02:26:09,520
never asking him for a resolve they

3808
02:26:12,630 --> 02:26:10,960
brought him in supposedly because all

3809
02:26:13,990 --> 02:26:12,640
these hauntings were running people off

3810
02:26:15,830 --> 02:26:14,000
but they never asked him to do anything

3811
02:26:18,150 --> 02:26:15,840
about it just catch footage

3812
02:26:19,429 --> 02:26:18,160
and then when he did they said oh we had

3813
02:26:22,389 --> 02:26:19,439
you had you to fake this right

3814
02:26:23,190 --> 02:26:22,399
he's just like no you know and then i

3815
02:26:25,110 --> 02:26:23,200
come there

3816
02:26:26,389 --> 02:26:25,120
the day after i host an event there a

3817
02:26:27,910 --> 02:26:26,399
filmmaker

3818
02:26:29,510 --> 02:26:27,920
comes there they shut it down and kick

3819
02:26:31,190 --> 02:26:29,520
them off the island

3820
02:26:33,349 --> 02:26:31,200
you know there's so many unanswered

3821
02:26:35,670 --> 02:26:33,359
questions from the government side

3822
02:26:37,030 --> 02:26:35,680
that i need to speak with somebody that

3823
02:26:37,830 --> 02:26:37,040
the government's got to get through to

3824
02:26:41,030 --> 02:26:37,840
me

3825
02:26:44,630 --> 02:26:41,040
um and i need to uh

3826
02:26:45,590 --> 02:26:44,640
gosh the name of it the the secret base

3827
02:26:48,389 --> 02:26:45,600
out there

3828
02:26:49,910 --> 02:26:48,399
um in alice springs they did a show oh

3829
02:26:50,870 --> 02:26:49,920
god what's the name of it they did a

3830
02:26:55,110 --> 02:26:50,880
netflix show

3831
02:26:57,270 --> 02:26:55,120
oh oh uh uh the radar installation

3832
02:26:58,950 --> 02:26:57,280
in the middle of the country yes yeah i

3833
02:27:01,349 --> 02:26:58,960
can't remember the name of it

3834
02:27:01,990 --> 02:27:01,359
yeah pine gap pine gap oh that was a

3835
02:27:04,950 --> 02:27:02,000
good tv

3836
02:27:05,750 --> 02:27:04,960
show by the way yeah there there's some

3837
02:27:07,270 --> 02:27:05,760
things

3838
02:27:08,550 --> 02:27:07,280
that i need to do out there that i

3839
02:27:09,910 --> 02:27:08,560
probably shouldn't talk about right now

3840
02:27:13,830 --> 02:27:09,920
that involve pine gap

3841
02:27:15,510 --> 02:27:13,840
okay but i i i just there's like i said

3842
02:27:18,070 --> 02:27:15,520
there is an ejection scene

3843
02:27:19,910 --> 02:27:18,080
there is there is a stopping point and a

3844
02:27:23,030 --> 02:27:19,920
place that i got to get to

3845
02:27:24,469 --> 02:27:23,040
that that i will feel like okay this is

3846
02:27:27,670 --> 02:27:24,479
what's going on right now

3847
02:27:28,710 --> 02:27:27,680
and i have enough answers um so what i

3848
02:27:30,950 --> 02:27:28,720
can say is we

3849
02:27:32,710 --> 02:27:30,960
for those of you that want to watch sir

3850
02:27:34,870 --> 02:27:32,720
no face two-face and

3851
02:27:35,830 --> 02:27:34,880
and phantom rider uh tonight and

3852
02:27:38,309 --> 02:27:35,840
tomorrow

3853
02:27:38,870 --> 02:27:38,319
um please know that there will be a lot

3854
02:27:41,190 --> 02:27:38,880
more

3855
02:27:42,790 --> 02:27:41,200
about two-face the gray i'm sorry about

3856
02:27:44,230 --> 02:27:42,800
uh the tattooed face man

3857
02:27:46,469 --> 02:27:44,240
and you'll know who this character is

3858
02:27:47,030 --> 02:27:46,479
you won't miss it when he comes into

3859
02:27:49,830 --> 02:27:47,040
play

3860
02:27:51,110 --> 02:27:49,840
but there's a lot more about him that i

3861
02:27:54,550 --> 02:27:51,120
have found

3862
02:27:58,230 --> 02:27:54,560
um yeah and i do i have his number

3863
02:28:01,190 --> 02:27:58,240
i have his uh addre

3864
02:28:03,750 --> 02:28:01,200
guy crazy backstory and there's some

3865
02:28:06,389 --> 02:28:03,760
bizarro connections to this whole story

3866
02:28:07,510 --> 02:28:06,399
that connect australia to mexico um so

3867
02:28:10,150 --> 02:28:07,520
there's a whole other

3868
02:28:11,349 --> 02:28:10,160
big chapter here and that's the last

3869
02:28:12,070 --> 02:28:11,359
little bit too is i do think i'm gonna

3870
02:28:14,790 --> 02:28:12,080
have to go to mexico

3871
02:28:15,110 --> 02:28:14,800
too well that i suggest to everybody you

3872
02:28:18,630 --> 02:28:15,120
do

3873
02:28:20,950 --> 02:28:18,640
just that is watch uh sir no face

3874
02:28:22,070 --> 02:28:20,960
watch two-face to the gray you can get

3875
02:28:24,790 --> 02:28:22,080
that out of the way

3876
02:28:25,990 --> 02:28:24,800
uh tonight and then tomorrow move on to

3877
02:28:28,309 --> 02:28:26,000
phantom rider and you can

3878
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see everything overlap and go one two

3879
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three pretty incredible

3880
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chad thank you so much my man be safe

3881
02:28:35,670 --> 02:28:33,040
out there

3882
02:28:37,110 --> 02:28:35,680
okay all right we've got a lot of stuff

3883
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to do in the future and i look forward

3884
02:28:40,389 --> 02:28:38,399
to all of it thank you so much

3885
02:28:42,630 --> 02:28:40,399
for sure jimmy you were the best

3886
02:28:42,870 --> 02:28:42,640
everybody who worked really hard to help

3887
02:28:45,190 --> 02:28:42,880
us

3888
02:28:46,309 --> 02:28:45,200
land this deal and get craig's story out

3889
02:28:49,349 --> 02:28:46,319
thank you all

3890
02:28:50,790 --> 02:28:49,359
to my partner thomas my team uh all of

3891
02:28:51,429 --> 02:28:50,800
my fans and supporters and jimmy love

3892
02:28:53,110 --> 02:28:51,439
you man

3893
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you're the best chad thank you so much

3894
02:28:56,550 --> 02:28:54,640
and we'll see you uh

3895
02:28:58,870 --> 02:28:56,560
at the rainbow uh hopefully in a couple

3896
02:28:59,270 --> 02:28:58,880
of months absolutely brother talk to you

3897
02:29:01,429 --> 02:28:59,280
soon

3898
02:29:03,349 --> 02:29:01,439
thank you so much chad kalec and i'm

3899
02:29:05,110 --> 02:29:03,359
gonna head to a break right here

3900
02:29:06,550 --> 02:29:05,120
and uh when i come back i'll go ahead

3901
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and open up the phone lines

3902
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and uh we'll do that next seven four

3903
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seven two two eight two

3904
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zero five one say good night chad peace

3905
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out later

3906
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that's what i'm talking about chad kalec

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3991
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all right welcome back paint to black

3992
02:33:31,590 --> 02:33:30,080
i'm your host jimmy church thank you

3993
02:33:34,790 --> 02:33:31,600
chad caleb the film

3994
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is amazing called phantom rider

3995
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and uh it's being a worldwide release in

3996
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premiere is tomorrow

3997
02:33:44,230 --> 02:33:42,560
and highly highly recommend this film

3998
02:33:46,950 --> 02:33:44,240
and if you haven't seen

3999
02:33:48,469 --> 02:33:46,960
uh sir no face or two face the gray

4000
02:33:51,510 --> 02:33:48,479
those are out now

4001
02:33:52,469 --> 02:33:51,520
so you can you can see those uh i saw

4002
02:33:54,790 --> 02:33:52,479
them on

4003
02:33:55,910 --> 02:33:54,800
i think it was amazon uh over the

4004
02:33:57,590 --> 02:33:55,920
weekend

4005
02:34:00,230 --> 02:33:57,600
and i'm not kidding about that by the

4006
02:34:03,590 --> 02:34:00,240
way i uh it was last week

4007
02:34:04,550 --> 02:34:03,600
um uh you know uh chad uh just texted me

4008
02:34:07,910 --> 02:34:04,560
and it was right

4009
02:34:11,110 --> 02:34:07,920
i mean and i i i i told ray i said

4010
02:34:12,950 --> 02:34:11,120
this is crazy check this out and

4011
02:34:14,710 --> 02:34:12,960
and you know i had to show her i said

4012
02:34:16,630 --> 02:34:14,720
look man it's right here

4013
02:34:18,389 --> 02:34:16,640
right here wow what are the odds of that

4014
02:34:18,870 --> 02:34:18,399
that's the universe uh reaching out to

4015
02:34:21,510 --> 02:34:18,880
us

4016
02:34:22,150 --> 02:34:21,520
now a couple of uh comments that i i do

4017
02:34:25,910 --> 02:34:22,160
want to make

4018
02:34:26,870 --> 02:34:25,920
really quick is that uh a part of the

4019
02:34:30,070 --> 02:34:26,880
focus

4020
02:34:33,030 --> 02:34:30,080
um and it's an incredible part of uh

4021
02:34:33,990 --> 02:34:33,040
of phantom rider is this fake alien

4022
02:34:37,349 --> 02:34:34,000
invasion

4023
02:34:39,750 --> 02:34:37,359
uh uh scenario scenario

4024
02:34:40,469 --> 02:34:39,760
and you you need to watch the film to

4025
02:34:44,150 --> 02:34:40,479
see how

4026
02:34:48,469 --> 02:34:44,160
uh uh chad lays it out there it's

4027
02:34:50,790 --> 02:34:48,479
it's a pretty interesting take um but

4028
02:34:53,349 --> 02:34:50,800
in the conversation tonight the one

4029
02:34:56,550 --> 02:34:53,359
thing that i have to say

4030
02:35:01,190 --> 02:34:56,560
uh very directly is

4031
02:35:02,790 --> 02:35:01,200
uh ttsa and de long and company alezando

4032
02:35:04,469 --> 02:35:02,800
everybody that is over there they need

4033
02:35:07,990 --> 02:35:04,479
to up their game now

4034
02:35:11,590 --> 02:35:08,000
uh it has been three years uh

4035
02:35:14,550 --> 02:35:11,600
same videos same witnesses

4036
02:35:15,750 --> 02:35:14,560
over and over again uh just played out

4037
02:35:19,429 --> 02:35:15,760
played over

4038
02:35:22,389 --> 02:35:19,439
um something's got to pop

4039
02:35:23,429 --> 02:35:22,399
something's got to pop ttsa you know you

4040
02:35:27,349 --> 02:35:23,439
can't just

4041
02:35:29,750 --> 02:35:27,359
rely on the tv show ttsa is

4042
02:35:31,190 --> 02:35:29,760
is quickly like fading into the

4043
02:35:33,429 --> 02:35:31,200
background

4044
02:35:35,429 --> 02:35:33,439
the way it was uh two years ago and

4045
02:35:37,190 --> 02:35:35,439
three years ago and the way it is today

4046
02:35:40,389 --> 02:35:37,200
two different situations

4047
02:35:44,389 --> 02:35:40,399
something something has got to pop or

4048
02:35:46,790 --> 02:35:44,399
uh it's gonna be exactly how

4049
02:35:48,710 --> 02:35:46,800
not only how chad is presented tonight

4050
02:35:49,750 --> 02:35:48,720
but the way that myself and others have

4051
02:35:52,550 --> 02:35:49,760
talked about what

4052
02:35:54,230 --> 02:35:52,560
what is actually going on there it's uh

4053
02:35:57,349 --> 02:35:54,240
it's got to change it's got to change

4054
02:35:59,110 --> 02:35:57,359
quickly it really does so

4055
02:36:03,429 --> 02:35:59,120
uh with that i've opened up the phone

4056
02:36:05,349 --> 02:36:03,439
line 747-228-2051

4057
02:36:07,110 --> 02:36:05,359
great conversation tonight i want to

4058
02:36:09,510 --> 02:36:07,120
thank chad kalec

4059
02:36:10,230 --> 02:36:09,520
uh you know brought his a game uh for

4060
02:36:12,389 --> 02:36:10,240
sure

4061
02:36:13,670 --> 02:36:12,399
seven four seven two two eight two zero

4062
02:36:15,910 --> 02:36:13,680
five one

4063
02:36:17,910 --> 02:36:15,920
and uh with that i've got calls on hold

4064
02:36:20,309 --> 02:36:17,920
and i've got a little bit of space

4065
02:36:21,670 --> 02:36:20,319
uh to break in a couple of more calls uh

4066
02:36:22,870 --> 02:36:21,680
before the end of the show let's go to

4067
02:36:24,950 --> 02:36:22,880
the phones hi you're live on fade to

4068
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black who's calling

4069
02:36:28,630 --> 02:36:27,520
hi jimmy it's dad i survived the weekend

4070
02:36:33,110 --> 02:36:28,640
see i told you

4071
02:36:36,630 --> 02:36:35,190
are you doing there yeah are you doing

4072
02:36:39,349 --> 02:36:36,640
okay

4073
02:36:41,110 --> 02:36:39,359
yeah i'm great great cool i'm not

4074
02:36:43,349 --> 02:36:41,120
absolutely

4075
02:36:44,469 --> 02:36:43,359
i'm i'm not sure i'm not sure what

4076
02:36:47,270 --> 02:36:44,479
you're referring to

4077
02:36:50,070 --> 02:36:47,280
with surviving the weekend but uh well

4078
02:36:51,510 --> 02:36:50,080
you told me on our last call it's just a

4079
02:36:53,510 --> 02:36:51,520
i hope you have a good weekend it's

4080
02:36:55,349 --> 02:36:53,520
going to be a nail biter

4081
02:36:56,950 --> 02:36:55,359
and i said i'm great and you said yeah

4082
02:36:58,870 --> 02:36:56,960
you sound great so

4083
02:37:00,550 --> 02:36:58,880
you know you were you were talking about

4084
02:37:02,150 --> 02:37:00,560
what we were discussing last week all

4085
02:37:03,910 --> 02:37:02,160
week which i'm not going to bring up

4086
02:37:05,349 --> 02:37:03,920
right because it's a new week now that's

4087
02:37:08,550 --> 02:37:05,359
right so

4088
02:37:11,590 --> 02:37:08,560
right uh i really enjoyed chad's take on

4089
02:37:13,990 --> 02:37:11,600
um everything um i've seen the first two

4090
02:37:15,830 --> 02:37:14,000
films can't wait to see the next one

4091
02:37:17,990 --> 02:37:15,840
i totally agree with a lot of his

4092
02:37:20,550 --> 02:37:18,000
breakdown on ttsa

4093
02:37:21,830 --> 02:37:20,560
um yeah as far as i'm concerned they're

4094
02:37:24,469 --> 02:37:21,840
a psyop at this point

4095
02:37:26,309 --> 02:37:24,479
they're irrelevant um they've kind of

4096
02:37:27,990 --> 02:37:26,319
melded in with the pentagon and whatever

4097
02:37:28,630 --> 02:37:28,000
agenda they have and that's just my

4098
02:37:30,710 --> 02:37:28,640
opinion

4099
02:37:34,070 --> 02:37:30,720
and i could be wrong it's been it's

4100
02:37:37,190 --> 02:37:34,080
happened before i've been wrong

4101
02:37:40,630 --> 02:37:37,200
yeah yeah so yeah but that's

4102
02:37:44,870 --> 02:37:40,640
um i think that an honest uh

4103
02:37:47,349 --> 02:37:44,880
objective take on on ttsa and everything

4104
02:37:48,630 --> 02:37:47,359
is what everybody is is doing right now

4105
02:37:52,150 --> 02:37:48,640
because

4106
02:37:54,070 --> 02:37:52,160
so much time has passed

4107
02:37:55,590 --> 02:37:54,080
right we're not six months into this

4108
02:38:00,550 --> 02:37:55,600
anymore

4109
02:38:03,590 --> 02:38:00,560
we're now approaching year four and

4110
02:38:04,150 --> 02:38:03,600
you know what is actually going on and

4111
02:38:07,830 --> 02:38:04,160
what

4112
02:38:11,190 --> 02:38:07,840
was the agenda well now this money

4113
02:38:13,670 --> 02:38:11,200
yeah now we can start to honestly assess

4114
02:38:15,590 --> 02:38:13,680
uh the situation well you know one of

4115
02:38:19,750 --> 02:38:15,600
the things you brought up money

4116
02:38:21,110 --> 02:38:19,760
um uh originally when they did the stock

4117
02:38:23,670 --> 02:38:21,120
offerings and

4118
02:38:25,429 --> 02:38:23,680
you know whatever money came in 1.2

4119
02:38:29,030 --> 02:38:25,439
million or two million dollars

4120
02:38:32,389 --> 02:38:29,040
or what i'm wondering uh today

4121
02:38:35,349 --> 02:38:32,399
because we haven't seen the financials

4122
02:38:35,750 --> 02:38:35,359
on ttsa but where are they today is

4123
02:38:39,030 --> 02:38:35,760
there

4124
02:38:42,230 --> 02:38:39,040
continued investment coming in uh

4125
02:38:44,230 --> 02:38:42,240
like it was before or has it just

4126
02:38:45,990 --> 02:38:44,240
completely trailed off and is down to a

4127
02:38:46,630 --> 02:38:46,000
trickle you know what do you what do you

4128
02:38:50,070 --> 02:38:46,640
mean

4129
02:38:53,030 --> 02:38:51,510
i think it's quiet for a reason i think

4130
02:38:54,630 --> 02:38:53,040
the only money they've made has been off

4131
02:38:55,190 --> 02:38:54,640
their show that they put on the history

4132
02:38:57,910 --> 02:38:55,200
channel

4133
02:38:59,590 --> 02:38:57,920
things are fizzling out and um that's

4134
02:39:00,790 --> 02:38:59,600
the end of that chapter as far as i'm

4135
02:39:03,990 --> 02:39:00,800
concerned

4136
02:39:06,230 --> 02:39:04,000
um really well i mean

4137
02:39:08,469 --> 02:39:06,240
i'll still be paying attention but i

4138
02:39:10,710 --> 02:39:08,479
mean not totally closing the book but

4139
02:39:11,670 --> 02:39:10,720
i don't think they're relevant yeah when

4140
02:39:14,309 --> 02:39:11,680
you um

4141
02:39:15,990 --> 02:39:14,319
when you make that when you come to that

4142
02:39:19,110 --> 02:39:16,000
kind of conclusion

4143
02:39:20,870 --> 02:39:19,120
is it the influence from things that you

4144
02:39:23,590 --> 02:39:20,880
are reading and stuff or

4145
02:39:24,150 --> 02:39:23,600
is there an another reason for this your

4146
02:39:27,830 --> 02:39:24,160
direct

4147
02:39:31,030 --> 02:39:27,840
observations of ttsa

4148
02:39:35,030 --> 02:39:31,040
um it's my direct observations of t

4149
02:39:37,429 --> 02:39:35,040
tt excuse me t-e-t-s-a

4150
02:39:40,309 --> 02:39:37,439
i keep wanting to say t-s-t-a for some

4151
02:39:43,590 --> 02:39:40,319
[\h__\h] reason but any oops i used to

4152
02:39:46,309 --> 02:39:43,600
own pc word anyway no it's it's just

4153
02:39:49,110 --> 02:39:46,319
watching what they're doing and

4154
02:39:49,510 --> 02:39:49,120
you know and that's and then also you

4155
02:39:51,750 --> 02:39:49,520
know

4156
02:39:53,349 --> 02:39:51,760
also influenced by you guys what you

4157
02:39:54,150 --> 02:39:53,359
talk about in other stations what they

4158
02:39:57,830 --> 02:39:54,160
talk about

4159
02:39:59,510 --> 02:39:57,840
in regards to ttsa um

4160
02:40:01,750 --> 02:39:59,520
i just haven't seen anything big come

4161
02:40:02,710 --> 02:40:01,760
out and so they come out with all these

4162
02:40:04,469 --> 02:40:02,720
big you know

4163
02:40:06,150 --> 02:40:04,479
proclamations in the beginning and then

4164
02:40:07,590 --> 02:40:06,160
it's just totally fizzled out if you've

4165
02:40:08,950 --> 02:40:07,600
got proof show it and

4166
02:40:10,950 --> 02:40:08,960
the proof's in the pudding they haven't

4167
02:40:14,670 --> 02:40:10,960
fed us you know

4168
02:40:17,910 --> 02:40:14,680
that was very interesting yeah chad's

4169
02:40:19,670 --> 02:40:17,920
observation of louis elizondo

4170
02:40:21,110 --> 02:40:19,680
where he said you know i'm looking at

4171
02:40:24,150 --> 02:40:21,120
this guy i'm looking at this

4172
02:40:27,269 --> 02:40:24,160
and then i see elizondo and

4173
02:40:30,230 --> 02:40:27,279
this guy has had media training

4174
02:40:31,349 --> 02:40:30,240
there's nobody that's tweeting oh yeah i

4175
02:40:33,349 --> 02:40:31,359
tweeted on that too

4176
02:40:35,670 --> 02:40:33,359
oh you did all right you know what i

4177
02:40:37,910 --> 02:40:35,680
didn't look at twitter once tonight

4178
02:40:39,830 --> 02:40:37,920
i was so into the conversation i

4179
02:40:41,590 --> 02:40:39,840
apologize to everybody if you think i

4180
02:40:44,469 --> 02:40:41,600
was reading your tweets

4181
02:40:44,790 --> 02:40:44,479
uh i wasn't it was a great conversation

4182
02:40:51,030 --> 02:40:44,800
yeah

4183
02:40:52,710 --> 02:40:51,040
you said you had a question yes i do and

4184
02:40:54,550 --> 02:40:52,720
i'm totally gonna fess up

4185
02:40:56,950 --> 02:40:54,560
and admit to stealing this from dave

4186
02:40:59,190 --> 02:40:56,960
schrader he had this question

4187
02:41:00,950 --> 02:40:59,200
a couple weeks ago on one of his shows

4188
02:41:01,750 --> 02:41:00,960
and it was just fascinating when it was

4189
02:41:04,389 --> 02:41:01,760
broken down

4190
02:41:04,870 --> 02:41:04,399
so jimmy you've got four doors in front

4191
02:41:07,830 --> 02:41:04,880
of you

4192
02:41:09,110 --> 02:41:07,840
and you only get to open one of them and

4193
02:41:11,349 --> 02:41:09,120
behind each door

4194
02:41:12,309 --> 02:41:11,359
is all the information on that topic

4195
02:41:15,110 --> 02:41:12,319
that you'd want to know

4196
02:41:15,990 --> 02:41:15,120
door number one is is there a god door

4197
02:41:18,309 --> 02:41:16,000
number two is is

4198
02:41:19,030 --> 02:41:18,319
there a devil door number three is is

4199
02:41:21,030 --> 02:41:19,040
there

4200
02:41:22,550 --> 02:41:21,040
life after death meaning our soul lives

4201
02:41:24,309 --> 02:41:22,560
on or whatever that might mean

4202
02:41:25,590 --> 02:41:24,319
and door number four is there

4203
02:41:28,150 --> 02:41:25,600
intelligent life

4204
02:41:29,190 --> 02:41:28,160
in the universe meaning not bacterial

4205
02:41:32,230 --> 02:41:29,200
plants but you know

4206
02:41:33,910 --> 02:41:32,240
humans other species people what door do

4207
02:41:35,910 --> 02:41:33,920
you open

4208
02:41:38,070 --> 02:41:35,920
well see but i know the answer to three

4209
02:41:38,870 --> 02:41:38,080
of those so i don't need to open those

4210
02:41:42,630 --> 02:41:38,880
doors

4211
02:41:46,389 --> 02:41:42,640
i would open up door number one

4212
02:41:48,790 --> 02:41:46,399
is there a god yeah

4213
02:41:50,230 --> 02:41:48,800
there you go i know i know the answer to

4214
02:41:52,389 --> 02:41:50,240
intelligence in the universe

4215
02:41:54,309 --> 02:41:52,399
i know the answer to life after the

4216
02:41:57,510 --> 02:41:54,319
death um

4217
02:42:00,309 --> 02:41:57,520
uh the devil could be any

4218
02:42:02,710 --> 02:42:00,319
number of different things so i feel

4219
02:42:05,910 --> 02:42:02,720
pretty confident in playing in that

4220
02:42:08,950 --> 02:42:05,920
in that sandbox but door number one

4221
02:42:12,230 --> 02:42:08,960
is there a god you know

4222
02:42:15,590 --> 02:42:12,240
and um

4223
02:42:18,309 --> 02:42:15,600
i i would i would i would do a slash

4224
02:42:18,630 --> 02:42:18,319
to that i would do a slash dot i would

4225
02:42:22,070 --> 02:42:18,640
say

4226
02:42:24,950 --> 02:42:22,080
is there a god and

4227
02:42:25,670 --> 02:42:24,960
it was jesus the son of god did he die

4228
02:42:27,670 --> 02:42:25,680
on the cross

4229
02:42:29,429 --> 02:42:27,680
and was resurrected you know i would

4230
02:42:32,150 --> 02:42:29,439
that that whole thing

4231
02:42:33,910 --> 02:42:32,160
i think is a something i would want the

4232
02:42:36,070 --> 02:42:33,920
answer to

4233
02:42:38,830 --> 02:42:36,080
right because if they're a god like i

4234
02:42:40,309 --> 02:42:38,840
said each door encompasses the whole

4235
02:42:44,309 --> 02:42:40,319
answer well

4236
02:42:46,230 --> 02:42:44,319
see the the is there a god um

4237
02:42:47,349 --> 02:42:46,240
that's also mean universal creator

4238
02:42:49,030 --> 02:42:47,359
original source

4239
02:42:51,030 --> 02:42:49,040
whatever god is to you and i'm that's

4240
02:42:54,309 --> 02:42:51,040
what i mean right right right

4241
02:42:55,910 --> 02:42:54,319
because if it plays out that i mean you

4242
02:42:59,830 --> 02:42:55,920
open up that door

4243
02:43:04,309 --> 02:42:59,840
and then god isn't god

4244
02:43:07,750 --> 02:43:04,319
right the bible the creator of earth and

4245
02:43:09,590 --> 02:43:07,760
and and the whole religious uh take on

4246
02:43:12,389 --> 02:43:09,600
it the ten commandments and moses

4247
02:43:13,269 --> 02:43:12,399
the whole thing right right and it's not

4248
02:43:19,990 --> 02:43:13,279
that

4249
02:43:23,110 --> 02:43:20,000
uh actually uh an intelligence

4250
02:43:25,030 --> 02:43:23,120
that is is running things out there

4251
02:43:28,309 --> 02:43:25,040
in the universe and throughout space and

4252
02:43:31,429 --> 02:43:28,319
time and is creating multiverses and

4253
02:43:34,070 --> 02:43:31,439
and is something else all together and

4254
02:43:36,870 --> 02:43:34,080
not the religious side of things

4255
02:43:37,429 --> 02:43:36,880
right i'm okay with that wow wow that

4256
02:43:40,630 --> 02:43:37,439
would be an

4257
02:43:43,750 --> 02:43:40,640
eye opener i mean how would you know

4258
02:43:46,790 --> 02:43:43,760
how would the planet react to that

4259
02:43:48,469 --> 02:43:46,800
right in that um one of the things

4260
02:43:50,230 --> 02:43:48,479
one of the things that we're all told

4261
02:43:53,349 --> 02:43:50,240
right you're your little kid

4262
02:43:54,790 --> 02:43:53,359
god is always watching he knows

4263
02:43:58,150 --> 02:43:54,800
everything about

4264
02:44:01,269 --> 02:43:58,160
you be careful and then you

4265
02:44:03,110 --> 02:44:01,279
you you hear this and you're five

4266
02:44:06,309 --> 02:44:03,120
and then you think to yourself well what

4267
02:44:08,309 --> 02:44:06,319
about what about my best friend bob

4268
02:44:11,670 --> 02:44:08,319
what about little annie over there what

4269
02:44:13,830 --> 02:44:11,680
about every single person on this planet

4270
02:44:16,550 --> 02:44:13,840
is is that kind of obvious and you

4271
02:44:19,750 --> 02:44:16,560
always think to yourself

4272
02:44:22,070 --> 02:44:19,760
sounds kind of impossible right

4273
02:44:23,349 --> 02:44:22,080
it's how does he pull that off and why

4274
02:44:26,950 --> 02:44:23,359
does he care about

4275
02:44:27,590 --> 02:44:26,960
me you know and i've always i've always

4276
02:44:31,110 --> 02:44:27,600
had that

4277
02:44:35,190 --> 02:44:34,070
everyone does everyone does you know and

4278
02:44:37,990 --> 02:44:35,200
you know when you get into

4279
02:44:39,590 --> 02:44:38,000
you know the um church aspect of it it

4280
02:44:40,950 --> 02:44:39,600
comes down to you're taught it's a

4281
02:44:41,750 --> 02:44:40,960
matter of faith and if you don't have

4282
02:44:43,269 --> 02:44:41,760
faith and

4283
02:44:45,269 --> 02:44:43,279
you're you know then you don't believe

4284
02:44:47,429 --> 02:44:45,279
in god and that's just not true

4285
02:44:48,469 --> 02:44:47,439
you know not everything is black and

4286
02:44:50,790 --> 02:44:48,479
white and

4287
02:44:52,309 --> 02:44:50,800
things are up to a lot of the bibles

4288
02:44:53,670 --> 02:44:52,319
have been interpreted and rewritten a

4289
02:44:54,790 --> 02:44:53,680
million i don't even want to touch the

4290
02:44:55,750 --> 02:44:54,800
bible let's not get out of this

4291
02:44:59,190 --> 02:44:55,760
conversation

4292
02:45:01,750 --> 02:44:59,200
i want to go back to the doors my answer

4293
02:45:02,469 --> 02:45:01,760
do you want to know what my answer was

4294
02:45:04,469 --> 02:45:02,479
yeah i

4295
02:45:06,630 --> 02:45:04,479
wanted to open door number three as

4296
02:45:08,950 --> 02:45:06,640
their life after death

4297
02:45:11,750 --> 02:45:08,960
and they kind of broke that down because

4298
02:45:14,870 --> 02:45:13,349
i was really interested in what they

4299
02:45:18,309 --> 02:45:14,880
would say and

4300
02:45:20,309 --> 02:45:18,319
dave said i would want to you know that

4301
02:45:22,309 --> 02:45:20,319
was my first impulse he said i'd want to

4302
02:45:23,990 --> 02:45:22,319
open door number four

4303
02:45:25,750 --> 02:45:24,000
and the reason he'd want to open door

4304
02:45:27,349 --> 02:45:25,760
number four to find out about

4305
02:45:29,269 --> 02:45:27,359
intelligent life

4306
02:45:31,510 --> 02:45:29,279
is because that's the one thing he

4307
02:45:35,110 --> 02:45:31,520
doesn't feel sure about he says

4308
02:45:36,710 --> 02:45:35,120
but let me tell you why he says because

4309
02:45:38,469 --> 02:45:36,720
you know as a person of faith who

4310
02:45:39,190 --> 02:45:38,479
believes in god and he's made that role

4311
02:45:41,349 --> 02:45:39,200
plain

4312
02:45:42,710 --> 02:45:41,359
what if i open door number one and

4313
02:45:45,030 --> 02:45:42,720
there's no god

4314
02:45:46,389 --> 02:45:45,040
then that destroys my whole foundation

4315
02:45:46,710 --> 02:45:46,399
and belief system and everything and

4316
02:45:49,190 --> 02:45:46,720
then

4317
02:45:50,230 --> 02:45:49,200
how do i go on because if there's no god

4318
02:45:52,070 --> 02:45:50,240
there's no devil

4319
02:45:53,830 --> 02:45:52,080
and then that opens that answers door

4320
02:45:55,429 --> 02:45:53,840
number three there's no afterlife

4321
02:45:57,190 --> 02:45:55,439
if there's no god because that's what

4322
02:45:59,190 --> 02:45:57,200
your whole foundation and your whole

4323
02:46:01,429 --> 02:45:59,200
world comes crashing down and goes and i

4324
02:46:02,469 --> 02:46:01,439
don't want that to happen so i'd rather

4325
02:46:04,710 --> 02:46:02,479
play it safe

4326
02:46:06,389 --> 02:46:04,720
and open door number four and when he

4327
02:46:09,269 --> 02:46:06,399
laid it up that way

4328
02:46:09,990 --> 02:46:09,279
i closed door number three and i opened

4329
02:46:13,830 --> 02:46:10,000
doors number

4330
02:46:15,990 --> 02:46:13,840
four yeah although i do believe

4331
02:46:16,950 --> 02:46:16,000
so it was an interesting breakdown yeah

4332
02:46:21,510 --> 02:46:16,960
dave's

4333
02:46:26,950 --> 02:46:24,630
it's a little bit flawed um door number

4334
02:46:29,670 --> 02:46:26,960
one there is no god or whatever that

4335
02:46:30,230 --> 02:46:29,680
has n what well it depends on your take

4336
02:46:31,830 --> 02:46:30,240
right

4337
02:46:33,670 --> 02:46:31,840
but that to me has nothing to do with

4338
02:46:36,070 --> 02:46:33,680
life after death

4339
02:46:37,590 --> 02:46:36,080
right so you can't say oh there was no

4340
02:46:39,590 --> 02:46:37,600
god then there was no devil then there

4341
02:46:42,710 --> 02:46:39,600
is no life after death

4342
02:46:43,030 --> 02:46:42,720
no no that my take on that is that would

4343
02:46:47,110 --> 02:46:43,040
be

4344
02:46:49,110 --> 02:46:47,120
flawed um with consciousness

4345
02:46:51,990 --> 02:46:49,120
and in the universe and what

4346
02:46:54,870 --> 02:46:52,000
consciousness is and how it's developed

4347
02:46:56,790 --> 02:46:54,880
um may not have anything to do with

4348
02:46:59,269 --> 02:46:56,800
religion and i'm not even sure that it

4349
02:47:01,110 --> 02:46:59,279
would even if there is a god

4350
02:47:03,510 --> 02:47:01,120
you know but i don't i don't mix

4351
02:47:05,510 --> 02:47:03,520
religion in with god god is a separate

4352
02:47:05,990 --> 02:47:05,520
thing to me it's a universal creator and

4353
02:47:11,750 --> 02:47:06,000
source

4354
02:47:12,790 --> 02:47:11,760
and our souls you know are in these meat

4355
02:47:15,590 --> 02:47:12,800
sacks of ours

4356
02:47:17,510 --> 02:47:15,600
then when we die and our souls go on

4357
02:47:19,990 --> 02:47:17,520
that's

4358
02:47:21,910 --> 02:47:20,000
you know he allows your soul to go on

4359
02:47:23,429 --> 02:47:21,920
and then that feeds into reincarnation

4360
02:47:25,990 --> 02:47:23,439
and all of that so

4361
02:47:27,269 --> 02:47:26,000
i don't i don't i don't compart well i

4362
02:47:29,590 --> 02:47:27,279
can not say this right

4363
02:47:31,190 --> 02:47:29,600
i don't put god in a box and say god is

4364
02:47:33,349 --> 02:47:31,200
attached to religion for me they're

4365
02:47:34,950 --> 02:47:33,359
totally separate and i kind of reject

4366
02:47:37,510 --> 02:47:34,960
religion in a way

4367
02:47:39,830 --> 02:47:37,520
you know i'm a very weird mix of things

4368
02:47:43,429 --> 02:47:39,840
jimmy

4369
02:47:45,190 --> 02:47:43,439
the thing the thing that uh

4370
02:47:46,469 --> 02:47:45,200
the thing that i have the the biggest

4371
02:47:49,670 --> 02:47:46,479
issue with

4372
02:47:51,429 --> 02:47:49,680
is that and this is so

4373
02:47:53,910 --> 02:47:51,439
fundamental and everybody shares this

4374
02:47:57,349 --> 02:47:53,920
point of view they really really do

4375
02:48:00,710 --> 02:47:57,359
but it's this buddhists

4376
02:48:02,070 --> 02:48:00,720
hindus islam catholicism and

4377
02:48:06,389 --> 02:48:02,080
christianity and

4378
02:48:08,790 --> 02:48:06,399
others can't all be right

4379
02:48:10,790 --> 02:48:08,800
right i think they're all right into i

4380
02:48:14,070 --> 02:48:10,800
think they're all right university

4381
02:48:17,349 --> 02:48:14,080
universally we're all come from a source

4382
02:48:18,950 --> 02:48:17,359
but buddhism doesn't have anything to do

4383
02:48:20,870 --> 02:48:18,960
with god

4384
02:48:22,389 --> 02:48:20,880
right and and the same thing with

4385
02:48:25,429 --> 02:48:22,399
hinduism and

4386
02:48:28,230 --> 02:48:25,439
and then when if you pull in uh

4387
02:48:29,190 --> 02:48:28,240
islam and their version of things

4388
02:48:32,790 --> 02:48:29,200
although

4389
02:48:34,710 --> 02:48:32,800
um you know abraham and and and you know

4390
02:48:35,830 --> 02:48:34,720
some of that stuff overlaps and comes

4391
02:48:38,950 --> 02:48:35,840
into play

4392
02:48:41,590 --> 02:48:38,960
but um and then you have the the jewish

4393
02:48:42,230 --> 02:48:41,600
side of things where there is no jesus

4394
02:48:45,750 --> 02:48:42,240
right

4395
02:48:48,469 --> 02:48:45,760
i i often sit back and go well

4396
02:48:50,950 --> 02:48:48,479
uh the fundamental things across all of

4397
02:48:53,429 --> 02:48:50,960
these are you know be a good person

4398
02:48:54,309 --> 02:48:53,439
and and and do the best you can and be

4399
02:48:56,150 --> 02:48:54,319
good to others

4400
02:48:57,910 --> 02:48:56,160
while you are here on this earth that's

4401
02:48:58,790 --> 02:48:57,920
the one thing that applies across the

4402
02:49:01,190 --> 02:48:58,800
board

4403
02:49:03,349 --> 02:49:01,200
everything else is is right out the

4404
02:49:04,630 --> 02:49:03,359
window i mean they don't even relate to

4405
02:49:06,230 --> 02:49:04,640
each other

4406
02:49:08,550 --> 02:49:06,240
well think about this take all the

4407
02:49:10,230 --> 02:49:08,560
religious books remove them from the

4408
02:49:11,510 --> 02:49:10,240
planet let's pretend they never existed

4409
02:49:12,790 --> 02:49:11,520
we're all just humans here on this

4410
02:49:15,510 --> 02:49:12,800
planet together

4411
02:49:17,030 --> 02:49:15,520
and there are no rules dictating us in a

4412
02:49:18,550 --> 02:49:17,040
religious context

4413
02:49:21,190 --> 02:49:18,560
what do we do with that i think we'd be

4414
02:49:24,550 --> 02:49:21,200
a much better society

4415
02:49:27,590 --> 02:49:24,560
well of course so then you're aren't you

4416
02:49:29,269 --> 02:49:27,600
buddhist at that point

4417
02:49:31,510 --> 02:49:29,279
i don't even want to put a label on it i

4418
02:49:33,510 --> 02:49:31,520
believe in a i believe in a creator that

4419
02:49:34,469 --> 02:49:33,520
put us here whatever that creator might

4420
02:49:35,990 --> 02:49:34,479
be

4421
02:49:38,309 --> 02:49:36,000
and we're all here together we're all a

4422
02:49:41,750 --> 02:49:38,319
human race and

4423
02:49:44,230 --> 02:49:41,760
you know i wha what would it

4424
02:49:44,950 --> 02:49:44,240
take it's complicated you know right

4425
02:49:47,510 --> 02:49:44,960
right right

4426
02:49:49,429 --> 02:49:47,520
right which is my next question um and

4427
02:49:52,950 --> 02:49:49,439
every everybody that's on hold just

4428
02:49:56,469 --> 02:49:52,960
just stay right there um is this

4429
02:50:00,389 --> 02:49:56,479
um what does it take

4430
02:50:03,190 --> 02:50:00,399
to get everybody onto the same page

4431
02:50:05,510 --> 02:50:03,200
right is that even possible all the wars

4432
02:50:06,150 --> 02:50:05,520
all the craziness throughout history

4433
02:50:08,550 --> 02:50:06,160
that

4434
02:50:10,790 --> 02:50:08,560
has been based on religion and and

4435
02:50:14,710 --> 02:50:10,800
beliefs and non-beliefs

4436
02:50:17,910 --> 02:50:14,720
um uh we are no closer today

4437
02:50:22,870 --> 02:50:17,920
to to getting everybody on the same page

4438
02:50:24,630 --> 02:50:22,880
what would it take

4439
02:50:26,389 --> 02:50:24,640
i have to think about that when i mean i

4440
02:50:30,230 --> 02:50:26,399
have

4441
02:50:32,389 --> 02:50:30,240
based kind of on my upbringing

4442
02:50:34,230 --> 02:50:32,399
and i like to separate myself from how i

4443
02:50:35,990 --> 02:50:34,240
was brainwashed early on

4444
02:50:37,670 --> 02:50:36,000
but i'm still i still have threads that

4445
02:50:41,110 --> 02:50:37,680
connect me to that it would be

4446
02:50:41,750 --> 02:50:41,120
a fake alien invasion that would be the

4447
02:50:43,349 --> 02:50:41,760
first thing

4448
02:50:45,990 --> 02:50:43,359
i think that would oh that would get

4449
02:50:49,190 --> 02:50:46,000
everybody on the same page real quick

4450
02:50:52,469 --> 02:50:49,200
and the second one would be a real

4451
02:50:55,750 --> 02:50:52,479
alien invasion right i mean uh

4452
02:50:56,630 --> 02:50:55,760
you know just the the the crazy town

4453
02:51:00,389 --> 02:50:56,640
happens

4454
02:51:03,429 --> 02:51:00,399
because at that point uh in

4455
02:51:04,070 --> 02:51:03,439
i can't i can't answer specifically but

4456
02:51:07,110 --> 02:51:04,080
at that point

4457
02:51:10,790 --> 02:51:07,120
i would say that all religions now

4458
02:51:13,030 --> 02:51:10,800
are off of the table unless jesus christ

4459
02:51:14,070 --> 02:51:13,040
or or god himself steps off of that

4460
02:51:19,030 --> 02:51:14,080
spaceship

4461
02:51:21,030 --> 02:51:19,040
other than that everybody's wrong

4462
02:51:22,630 --> 02:51:21,040
well the problem with an alien invasion

4463
02:51:25,990 --> 02:51:22,640
whether it's faked or real

4464
02:51:27,510 --> 02:51:26,000
is the whole a lot of people

4465
02:51:29,030 --> 02:51:27,520
and this has been mentioned about the

4466
02:51:30,550 --> 02:51:29,040
pentagon too the reason they don't want

4467
02:51:31,670 --> 02:51:30,560
to touch the alien thing is they think

4468
02:51:33,670 --> 02:51:31,680
it's demonic

4469
02:51:35,670 --> 02:51:33,680
and so if we have some kind of alien

4470
02:51:36,790 --> 02:51:35,680
realization and it was real

4471
02:51:38,230 --> 02:51:36,800
they're just going to say that they're

4472
02:51:39,510 --> 02:51:38,240
all from the devil and they're all

4473
02:51:41,510 --> 02:51:39,520
entities here and they're all

4474
02:51:42,950 --> 02:51:41,520
evil and they're demons and that we have

4475
02:51:44,870 --> 02:51:42,960
to fight harder than ever and it would

4476
02:51:47,269 --> 02:51:44,880
cause even more separation

4477
02:51:49,190 --> 02:51:47,279
among christians and this evil entity

4478
02:51:50,950 --> 02:51:49,200
that's suddenly here they would reject

4479
02:51:51,670 --> 02:51:50,960
it i hate to say that but i know it's

4480
02:51:54,389 --> 02:51:51,680
true

4481
02:51:55,110 --> 02:51:54,399
um and and so that wouldn't be a

4482
02:51:58,150 --> 02:51:55,120
solution

4483
02:52:01,269 --> 02:51:58,160
from what i have observed but

4484
02:52:02,710 --> 02:52:01,279
you know yeah yeah yeah yeah all great

4485
02:52:05,269 --> 02:52:02,720
questions deb thank you

4486
02:52:07,190 --> 02:52:05,279
and uh another great phone call all

4487
02:52:09,110 --> 02:52:07,200
right we'll see you tomorrow night jimmy

4488
02:52:11,670 --> 02:52:09,120
have a great day great show great show

4489
02:52:14,469 --> 02:52:11,680
tonight have a great night take care bye

4490
02:52:15,910 --> 02:52:14,479
uh all the best questions right there

4491
02:52:19,910 --> 02:52:15,920
are in play

4492
02:52:22,790 --> 02:52:19,920
i'm being serious too i mean if you are

4493
02:52:24,309 --> 02:52:22,800
uh devote uh to whatever your religion

4494
02:52:25,590 --> 02:52:24,319
is right but you but you're devoting

4495
02:52:28,070 --> 02:52:25,600
you're all in

4496
02:52:29,910 --> 02:52:28,080
and then suddenly the rug gets pulled

4497
02:52:33,110 --> 02:52:29,920
out from under you

4498
02:52:36,230 --> 02:52:33,120
does does the vatican

4499
02:52:39,750 --> 02:52:36,240
uh do the religious uh

4500
02:52:42,469 --> 02:52:39,760
uh televangelists around the country

4501
02:52:43,670 --> 02:52:42,479
suddenly put a religious spin on this of

4502
02:52:46,790 --> 02:52:43,680
course

4503
02:52:49,590 --> 02:52:46,800
they have the same god that we do here

4504
02:52:50,950 --> 02:52:49,600
you know and they're baptizing on on

4505
02:52:54,389 --> 02:52:50,960
their home world

4506
02:52:57,269 --> 02:52:54,399
it's no different i mean does that

4507
02:52:59,670 --> 02:52:57,279
i i don't know you know that there's

4508
02:53:00,550 --> 02:52:59,680
gonna have to be a pretty quick spin on

4509
02:53:03,349 --> 02:53:00,560
this

4510
02:53:04,469 --> 02:53:03,359
to keep the entire world from not losing

4511
02:53:05,750 --> 02:53:04,479
their mind you have to remember

4512
02:53:07,830 --> 02:53:05,760
christianity

4513
02:53:09,429 --> 02:53:07,840
and and catholicism that's the biggest

4514
02:53:12,630 --> 02:53:09,439
religion in the world you look at

4515
02:53:16,230 --> 02:53:12,640
islam you look like you look at hinduism

4516
02:53:19,269 --> 02:53:16,240
and and and buddhism and

4517
02:53:21,830 --> 02:53:19,279
you think oh man right

4518
02:53:24,309 --> 02:53:21,840
you're gonna have to you're gonna have

4519
02:53:25,990 --> 02:53:24,319
to keep the world in check

4520
02:53:27,190 --> 02:53:26,000
yeah that's pretty interesting let's go

4521
02:53:29,429 --> 02:53:27,200
back to the phones how you're live on

4522
02:53:32,710 --> 02:53:29,439
fade to black who's calling

4523
02:53:36,070 --> 02:53:32,720
what's up jim who's this

4524
02:53:38,150 --> 02:53:36,080
ah an old friend from point doom

4525
02:53:40,790 --> 02:53:38,160
my old friend from point doom has to

4526
02:53:43,030 --> 02:53:40,800
have a name though

4527
02:53:45,190 --> 02:53:43,040
yeah it's michael hi michael how are you

4528
02:53:48,790 --> 02:53:45,200
tonight

4529
02:53:50,469 --> 02:53:48,800
uh you know man i'm i'm riding it out uh

4530
02:53:52,790 --> 02:53:50,479
there's a lot of weird things going on

4531
02:53:56,309 --> 02:53:52,800
and i'm just trying to

4532
02:53:59,269 --> 02:53:56,319
remain non-reactionary and more

4533
02:53:59,750 --> 02:53:59,279
uh just going through the process what

4534
02:54:03,269 --> 02:53:59,760
what

4535
02:54:09,510 --> 02:54:03,279
out

4536
02:54:14,389 --> 02:54:11,830
i'm i'm really having a hard time with

4537
02:54:16,630 --> 02:54:14,399
the way that the election was handled

4538
02:54:19,590 --> 02:54:16,640
and i'm just i learned a lot from you

4539
02:54:21,670 --> 02:54:19,600
jim is just try to be short and sweet

4540
02:54:25,030 --> 02:54:21,680
so i'm going to try to leave that one

4541
02:54:29,190 --> 02:54:28,790
i don't want to be knocked off the air

4542
02:54:33,429 --> 02:54:29,200
for

4543
02:54:36,230 --> 02:54:33,439
saying something that seems

4544
02:54:37,269 --> 02:54:36,240
unfounded but i mean if if you were

4545
02:54:40,309 --> 02:54:37,279
really

4546
02:54:43,910 --> 02:54:40,319
voting for biden you

4547
02:54:44,389 --> 02:54:43,920
you you might as well be voting for a

4548
02:54:47,269 --> 02:54:44,399
rock

4549
02:54:47,750 --> 02:54:47,279
and let me just let that go well i don't

4550
02:54:50,790 --> 02:54:47,760
think

4551
02:54:53,910 --> 02:54:50,800
but but your opinion

4552
02:54:57,190 --> 02:54:53,920
is is fine um

4553
02:54:59,110 --> 02:54:57,200
that that's okay um obviously

4554
02:55:01,510 --> 02:54:59,120
the the thing is this jim is that the

4555
02:55:04,710 --> 02:55:01,520
same thing happened back with kennedy

4556
02:55:07,269 --> 02:55:04,720
is that when you start having

4557
02:55:08,070 --> 02:55:07,279
counts of people that are no longer

4558
02:55:10,790 --> 02:55:08,080
living

4559
02:55:12,550 --> 02:55:10,800
alive when you're having social workers

4560
02:55:15,429 --> 02:55:12,560
that are using

4561
02:55:16,469 --> 02:55:15,439
people in retirement homes that didn't

4562
02:55:19,750 --> 02:55:16,479
even vote

4563
02:55:20,469 --> 02:55:19,760
um it sure seemed like you know this is

4564
02:55:23,190 --> 02:55:20,479
just what i

4565
02:55:23,990 --> 02:55:23,200
this is just my opinion jim and i'm not

4566
02:55:27,269 --> 02:55:24,000
gonna

4567
02:55:30,790 --> 02:55:27,279
try to combat you with facts but

4568
02:55:33,110 --> 02:55:30,800
it's almost like when hillary did not

4569
02:55:35,429 --> 02:55:33,120
get elected

4570
02:55:37,510 --> 02:55:35,439
that there were three years used to

4571
02:55:39,990 --> 02:55:37,520
figure out how

4572
02:55:40,790 --> 02:55:40,000
no way could trump get reelected that's

4573
02:55:42,950 --> 02:55:40,800
just

4574
02:55:44,070 --> 02:55:42,960
you know without going on all the facts

4575
02:55:47,349 --> 02:55:44,080
and

4576
02:55:48,309 --> 02:55:47,359
um a couple of really interesting

4577
02:55:51,830 --> 02:55:48,319
documentaries

4578
02:55:55,110 --> 02:55:51,840
that i have watched about what

4579
02:55:58,389 --> 02:55:55,120
exactly went into play

4580
02:56:01,670 --> 02:55:58,399
to get all the people

4581
02:56:04,950 --> 02:56:01,680
from trump's party discredited excuse

4582
02:56:06,950 --> 02:56:04,960
exceptionally mike flynn what they did

4583
02:56:10,389 --> 02:56:06,960
to mike flynn and his family

4584
02:56:13,830 --> 02:56:10,399
and the process of intimidation

4585
02:56:15,750 --> 02:56:13,840
um from not with drawing from the vigor

4586
02:56:18,710 --> 02:56:15,760
that they were trying to represent

4587
02:56:19,830 --> 02:56:18,720
their their candidate was absolutely

4588
02:56:21,990 --> 02:56:19,840
incredible

4589
02:56:24,830 --> 02:56:22,000
yeah but but this is the thing and i

4590
02:56:29,190 --> 02:56:24,840
don't get into politics on the show

4591
02:56:30,070 --> 02:56:29,200
but okay but when you say something like

4592
02:56:32,710 --> 02:56:30,080
that

4593
02:56:34,790 --> 02:56:32,720
didn't trump himself call mike flynn an

4594
02:56:37,910 --> 02:56:34,800
idiot

4595
02:56:40,309 --> 02:56:37,920
incompetent he got fired because he

4596
02:56:42,469 --> 02:56:40,319
he sucked and and every i mean it's just

4597
02:56:44,630 --> 02:56:42,479
like wait a minute

4598
02:56:46,790 --> 02:56:44,640
right but couldn't that possibly be jim

4599
02:56:49,030 --> 02:56:46,800
because he was given directives that he

4600
02:56:51,190 --> 02:56:49,040
didn't follow under pressure

4601
02:56:52,070 --> 02:56:51,200
but it goes what i'm trying to say here

4602
02:56:55,269 --> 02:56:52,080
is

4603
02:56:57,429 --> 02:56:55,279
uh that the conspiracies that we're

4604
02:56:59,830 --> 02:56:57,439
talking about here

4605
02:57:01,269 --> 02:56:59,840
cancel themselves out all the time from

4606
02:57:03,269 --> 02:57:01,279
both sides

4607
02:57:04,309 --> 02:57:03,279
i mean what i'm saying is that there

4608
02:57:07,670 --> 02:57:04,319
were people actually

4609
02:57:11,110 --> 02:57:07,680
hired to find out the money trail

4610
02:57:14,150 --> 02:57:11,120
the phone trail and then whether or not

4611
02:57:18,550 --> 02:57:14,160
those people were associated with people

4612
02:57:22,150 --> 02:57:18,560
that were being paid to make an opinion

4613
02:57:25,429 --> 02:57:22,160
wow that was this is this is this is my

4614
02:57:27,750 --> 02:57:25,439
take on on anything like that look and

4615
02:57:30,309 --> 02:57:27,760
i'm going to say this very direct

4616
02:57:31,110 --> 02:57:30,319
i love a conspiracy more than the next

4617
02:57:33,590 --> 02:57:31,120
guy

4618
02:57:34,630 --> 02:57:33,600
or the next you're going to prove it i i

4619
02:57:37,269 --> 02:57:34,640
love them

4620
02:57:38,950 --> 02:57:37,279
i love getting into it i like looking at

4621
02:57:43,349 --> 02:57:38,960
it and observing it okay

4622
02:57:46,469 --> 02:57:43,359
i really do um in in this case

4623
02:57:49,110 --> 02:57:46,479
um and we're not talking about 911 uh

4624
02:57:50,469 --> 02:57:49,120
which is uh something else all together

4625
02:57:53,269 --> 02:57:50,479
we're not talking about

4626
02:57:53,990 --> 02:57:53,279
other conspiracies of the past and and a

4627
02:57:56,950 --> 02:57:54,000
lot of them

4628
02:57:57,830 --> 02:57:56,960
are have have turned out to be not only

4629
02:58:01,269 --> 02:57:57,840
real

4630
02:58:05,110 --> 02:58:01,279
but diabolical okay so

4631
02:58:08,309 --> 02:58:05,120
that but in this case right now either

4632
02:58:10,950 --> 02:58:08,319
either you have sleepy joe in the inept

4633
02:58:11,830 --> 02:58:10,960
uh dumb democrats that don't know

4634
02:58:14,950 --> 02:58:11,840
anything about

4635
02:58:17,110 --> 02:58:14,960
anything but somehow managed to pull off

4636
02:58:19,590 --> 02:58:17,120
the biggest conspiracy in the world

4637
02:58:21,269 --> 02:58:19,600
you can't have that both ways but the

4638
02:58:23,910 --> 02:58:21,279
the flip side is

4639
02:58:24,590 --> 02:58:23,920
what everybody is suggesting here is

4640
02:58:28,070 --> 02:58:24,600
that

4641
02:58:28,950 --> 02:58:28,080
republicans are never part of any of

4642
02:58:31,750 --> 02:58:28,960
this

4643
02:58:33,269 --> 02:58:31,760
right and you can't you can't have that

4644
02:58:35,510 --> 02:58:33,279
both ways

4645
02:58:36,550 --> 02:58:35,520
okay let's let's let's jim let's

4646
02:58:39,429 --> 02:58:36,560
reapproach

4647
02:58:40,710 --> 02:58:39,439
no i only have a mic i only have 15

4648
02:58:43,030 --> 02:58:40,720
seconds left

4649
02:58:44,389 --> 02:58:43,040
so i'm gonna say okay well then let me

4650
02:58:47,429 --> 02:58:44,399
say something else real quick

4651
02:58:48,469 --> 02:58:47,439
off the subject um your guest was all

4652
02:58:49,990 --> 02:58:48,479
about

4653
02:58:52,469 --> 02:58:50,000
you know he doesn't know whether he's

4654
02:58:54,389 --> 02:58:52,479
all in or all out i only have

4655
02:58:56,469 --> 02:58:54,399
we're gonna get mike we're gonna get cut

4656
02:58:58,230 --> 02:58:56,479
off the network here in a second

4657
02:59:00,710 --> 02:58:58,240
okay let me tell you something once you

4658
02:59:02,870 --> 02:59:00,720
make a report on aliens you're gone

4659
02:59:04,950 --> 02:59:02,880
i mean you're already chosen you already

4660
02:59:07,190 --> 02:59:04,960
picked you can't get out of it

4661
02:59:08,710 --> 02:59:07,200
there you go mike have a great night

4662
02:59:10,550 --> 02:59:08,720
behave and be well and we'll see you

4663
02:59:13,269 --> 02:59:10,560
right here tomorrow

4664
02:59:14,630 --> 02:59:13,279
love you jim say hi to rita right on

4665
02:59:16,469 --> 02:59:14,640
great phone call

4666
02:59:18,550 --> 02:59:16,479
this is fade to black i am your host

4667
02:59:21,910 --> 02:59:18,560
jimmy church what a great show tonight

4668
02:59:24,790 --> 02:59:21,920
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4669
02:59:25,910 --> 02:59:24,800
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4670
02:59:27,910 --> 02:59:25,920
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4671
02:59:29,590 --> 02:59:27,920
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4672
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4673
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4674
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4675
02:59:37,590 --> 02:59:36,120
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4676
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4677
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4678
02:59:44,150 --> 02:59:42,640
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4679
02:59:46,230 --> 02:59:44,160
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4680
02:59:47,830 --> 02:59:46,240
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4681
02:59:49,750 --> 02:59:47,840
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4682
02:59:51,349 --> 02:59:49,760
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4683
02:59:52,389 --> 02:59:51,359
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4684
02:59:53,990 --> 02:59:52,399
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4685
02:59:55,429 --> 02:59:54,000
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4686
02:59:57,429 --> 02:59:55,439
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4687
02:59:59,910 --> 02:59:57,439
your host jimmy church

4688
03:00:00,870 --> 02:59:59,920
tomorrow night right here steve laplume

4689
03:00:04,790 --> 03:00:00,880
randall shim

4690
03:00:08,469 --> 03:00:04,800
a month later the second ufo incident

4691
03:00:10,469 --> 03:00:08,479
at east gate until then i want everybody

4692
03:00:50,830 --> 03:00:10,479
to be safe